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<blockquote data-quote="Quartz" data-source="post: 7791856" data-attributes="member: 40552"><p>For TWF simply reduce the fighter's base DPR by 2 per round per attack (i.e. 6 for the base 3 attacks to 12 for four base attacks, a reaction, and a bonus action) ) and a further 1 for the reduced die of the off-hand weapon.</p><p></p><p>For PAM, the die is d10 for the base attacks and d4 for the bonus attack</p><p></p><p>Here's the table for PAM, without considering criticals:</p><p></p><p>[code]</p><p>Class Base Attacks Damage die Stat Bonus Reaction Attack Bonus attack Bonus die Style P(Hit) Total damage Notes</p><p>Fighter 3 5.5 5 5.5 2.5 0 0 0.6 29.7 Polearm 1d10 +1d4 - no GWM</p><p>Paladin 2 5.5 5 5.5 2.5 4.5 0 0.6 34.2 Bonus radiant damage</p><p>Ranger 2 5.5 5 5.5 2.5 3.5 0 0.6 31.8 Assumes Hunter's Mark active</p><p>Barbarian 2 5.5 5 5.5 2.5 3 0 0.84 34.44 Assumes Rage active</p><p>[/code]</p><p></p><p>ENWorld isn't allowing me to attack a graphic for some reason, but you can see that the 11th level Battlemaster does less damage than any other class. At 20th level the Fighter's DPR increases to 36 and the Barbarian's to 41.6 (Str 24).</p><p></p><p>Actually, with PAM you can now use the spear so spear + shield and thus duellist is valid:</p><p></p><p>[code]</p><p>Class Base Attacks Damage die Stat Bonus Reaction Attack Bonus attack Bonus die Style P(Hit) Total damage Notes</p><p>Fighter 3 3.5 5 5.5 2.5 0 2 0.6 32.1 Spear 1d6 +1d4 - Duellist style</p><p>Paladin 2 3.5 5 5.5 2.5 4.5 2 0.6 36.6 Bonus radiant damage</p><p>Ranger 2 3.5 5 5.5 2.5 3.5 2 0.6 34.2 Assumes Hunter's Mark active</p><p>Barbarian 2 3.5 5 5.5 2.5 3 0 0.84 31.08 Assumes Rage active</p><p>[/code]</p><p></p><p>At 20th level the Battlemaster Fighter does 38.4 damage and the Barbarian 37.8 (assuming Str 24).</p><p></p><p>You can see that the BM fighter is simply outclassed at 11th level upwards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quartz, post: 7791856, member: 40552"] For TWF simply reduce the fighter's base DPR by 2 per round per attack (i.e. 6 for the base 3 attacks to 12 for four base attacks, a reaction, and a bonus action) ) and a further 1 for the reduced die of the off-hand weapon. For PAM, the die is d10 for the base attacks and d4 for the bonus attack Here's the table for PAM, without considering criticals: [code] Class Base Attacks Damage die Stat Bonus Reaction Attack Bonus attack Bonus die Style P(Hit) Total damage Notes Fighter 3 5.5 5 5.5 2.5 0 0 0.6 29.7 Polearm 1d10 +1d4 - no GWM Paladin 2 5.5 5 5.5 2.5 4.5 0 0.6 34.2 Bonus radiant damage Ranger 2 5.5 5 5.5 2.5 3.5 0 0.6 31.8 Assumes Hunter's Mark active Barbarian 2 5.5 5 5.5 2.5 3 0 0.84 34.44 Assumes Rage active [/code] ENWorld isn't allowing me to attack a graphic for some reason, but you can see that the 11th level Battlemaster does less damage than any other class. At 20th level the Fighter's DPR increases to 36 and the Barbarian's to 41.6 (Str 24). Actually, with PAM you can now use the spear so spear + shield and thus duellist is valid: [code] Class Base Attacks Damage die Stat Bonus Reaction Attack Bonus attack Bonus die Style P(Hit) Total damage Notes Fighter 3 3.5 5 5.5 2.5 0 2 0.6 32.1 Spear 1d6 +1d4 - Duellist style Paladin 2 3.5 5 5.5 2.5 4.5 2 0.6 36.6 Bonus radiant damage Ranger 2 3.5 5 5.5 2.5 3.5 2 0.6 34.2 Assumes Hunter's Mark active Barbarian 2 3.5 5 5.5 2.5 3 0 0.84 31.08 Assumes Rage active [/code] At 20th level the Battlemaster Fighter does 38.4 damage and the Barbarian 37.8 (assuming Str 24). You can see that the BM fighter is simply outclassed at 11th level upwards. [/QUOTE]
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