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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CryHavoc" data-source="post: 3572830" data-attributes="member: 47936">D&D Undead to me seem a little...well...uninteresting.  Sure there is diversity with all manner of different beasties to chop up into pieces, but it seems like the Undead as a whole are not portrayed as a danger in any of the campaign settings, nor is it inflected in the rules.For example, shadows and vampires can reproduce easily enough.  I understand that clerics with big shiny symbols and adventurers with big shiny swords can put them down, but therein lies the problem.Not everyone can be an adventurer, but everyone can be an undead creature.  Both creatures are extremely dangerous to low level people, and can spawn powerful undead simply by killing lesser creatures.  Encountering a single vampire or handful of shadows in an adventure seems like a bit of a cop out to me, unless they are controlled.  There are probably many other undead out there like this as well, but these are the two that I remember.Please Note: I would appreciate at this point that everyone removes the thought of "But you can do it in your own game" from your head.  That answer everyone knows already, no-one seems wiser by saying it.Now I'm also a Romeo fan, as well as a convert to the 28 movies (even though they are runners and not true zombies, it's still sweet).  I find that zombies in D&D are nice encounters at low to mid levels, but are never actually a threat.As a challenge, I would be interested to see some of the better stat-crunchers (obviously I'm not one of them, or I'd do it myself) to come up with Ruled-Scenarios to generate a Night of the Living Dead or 28 Days Later scenario in a D&D realm.My initial thoughts was for an epic-level spell that would create infected zombies to rise from the grave and feast, but I also thought it would be too easy to use Origin of Species to simply create one infected zombie and let it loose.  Let's make this interesting, rather than easy, and have the answers with a bit of style to them.</blockquote>

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