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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 2798615" data-attributes="member: 2020">I changed the thread title.  Thanks, Henry.  Colonel Hardisson, I posted the question at Nothingland also.    Ironically, sexual pleasure was an Exalted Thing in itself, in the Book of Exalted Deeds.  So, I suppose, there could be an Exalted Hedonist.  When I was very new to the game, I was into playing Good characters.  This ran contrary to everyone else around me, who were into playing Evil characters.  Several years later, when Edena the Cleric reached about 9th level, I started playing him as an Exalted character.  There were no rules to reward the Exalted character then, just the satisfaction of rping such a character.  That didn't last very long.  The level of anger and resentment I encountered was astonishing.  In a few cases, it actually devolved into outright hatred.  The idea that a character would actually dare to try and change the campaign world (as an Exalted character is going to attempt) was anaethema to DM and players alike.    I am very happy to hear that some of you are enjoying the Book of Exalted Deeds, and that you made it work for you.  Because this means there is hope I can make it work for me.  I would absolutely agree with what you said:  everyone must agree on it beforehand.  Of course, when I played no such book existed, and there was no party consensus beforehand on how to play.  So, aside from dissatisfaction with my character, people had dissatisfactions otherwise with everyone else.  It's important to decide what kind of campaign it will be beforehand.  I discussed this with a friend last night.  We thought that Ravenloft would be a great place for Exalted characters.  We thought Krynn would be a good place for Exalted characters.  We were iffy on Greyhawk.  We said unlikely to the Forgotten Realms (because no Exalted Dieties exist there:  no Exalted Deity would allow the Faithless and False to go to Kelemvor's Wall, in our opinion.)  We thought Dark Sun had it's own kind of Exalted:  the Preserver and the goal of Preserver Metamorphosis (Avangion Metamorphosis.)  I'm not familiar enough with Eberron or Kalamar to make a call there.  I would say, in all fairness, that no Exalted character of mine would be comfortable with the governments and nations and cultures in FR, Greyhawk, and Krynn.  I can explain why, if asked.    I and my friend also agreed that normal Krynnish kender would be unlikely to be Exalted, but afflicted kender might qualify.  It's a matter of focus.  We also agreed that the Exalted Template could be applied to organizations of people dedicated to good causes made famous in literature and fiction in general.  Such people in such organizations would not - do not - achieve the purity of Exalted Characters.  Their human or humanoid failings cause them to fall short of the requirements for Exalted.  But they try hard anyways, and they serve something worth serving, and they are special people.  Such people - along with their mortal failings - might have the Exalted Template, or a variant of it.    For those of you who can stand The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant (or enjoy them, like me), the Lords, the Bloodguard, and the Ramen would count as good, neutral, and good examples of these people.  Caer-Caveral the Forestal of Andelain would count as a good Exalted.  These peoples aren't perfect.  They have mortal failings (they have mortal failings even if they think they are perfect, like the Bloodguard!)  They make terrible mistakes.  Yet what they do is noteworthy and lofty enough, it is imaginable to give them a modified form of the Exalted Template (a modified form, since the exact original out of the book doesn't quite fit in the Land.)  What do you'all think?</blockquote>

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