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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6347753" data-attributes="member: 22424">In the first instance, I'll expect a smallish conversion guide, probably in eDragon or similar, mostly just to tide people over.When they do revisit a setting for the new edition, I would expect the full hardcover treatment, though. Simply because every edition is someone's first edition - if they assume people have the older materials then they are limiting the audience for their new book. And with settings already being of limited appeal, any further limit probably makes it not worth printing the book.But my point wasn't just about &quot;big fat hardcovers&quot; representing bloat - instead, it's just about the sheer number of options. Even if all WotC do is publish conversions of things, that's still a huge number of options (just the few I 'need', plus the few you 'need', plus that guy, and that guy, and...). If they convert enough then it will bloat the game; if they don't convert enough then it will feel limited.What I think WotC can maybe try to do is to very publicly drop the &quot;everything is core&quot; mantra from 4e, and instead actively encourage groups to pick and choose. And then work to avoid crossing the streams - keep the Eberron-specific stuff in Eberron-specific books, the Dragonlance-specific stuff in Dragonlance-specific books, and so on. That way, I can buy the &quot;big three&quot; plus the Eberron campaign setting; I don't have to buy MM2 for Shifters and MM3 for Changelings, and &quot;Arcane Secrets IV&quot; for Dragonmarks, and... and it also means that in the books I do buy, I'm not also getting a bunch of stuff I can never use because it's for some other, radically different, setting.That won't cut the number of options, or the total bloat of the game (especially if Morningstar follows the DDI model of including everything in a subscription), but it does at least let people pick and choose what they want, and do so in a fairly clear way. And at least that way, people who buy everything and then complain about the bloat have largely brought it on themselves.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="delericho, post: 6347753, member: 22424"] In the first instance, I'll expect a smallish conversion guide, probably in eDragon or similar, mostly just to tide people over. When they [i]do[/i] revisit a setting for the new edition, I would expect the full hardcover treatment, though. Simply because every edition is someone's first edition - if they assume people have the older materials then they are limiting the audience for their new book. And with settings already being of limited appeal, any further limit probably makes it not worth printing the book. But my point wasn't just about "big fat hardcovers" representing bloat - instead, it's just about the sheer number of options. Even if all WotC do is publish conversions of things, that's still a huge number of options (just the few I 'need', plus the few you 'need', plus that guy, and that guy, and...). If they convert enough then it will bloat the game; if they don't convert enough then it will feel limited. What I think WotC can maybe try to do is to very publicly drop the "everything is core" mantra from 4e, and instead actively encourage groups to pick and choose. And then work to avoid crossing the streams - keep the Eberron-specific stuff in Eberron-specific books, the Dragonlance-specific stuff in Dragonlance-specific books, and so on. That way, I can buy the "big three" plus the Eberron campaign setting; I don't have to buy MM2 for Shifters and MM3 for Changelings, and "Arcane Secrets IV" for Dragonmarks, and... and it also means that in the books I [i]do[/i] buy, I'm not also getting a bunch of stuff I can never use because it's for some other, radically different, setting. That won't cut the number of options, or the total bloat of the game (especially if Morningstar follows the DDI model of including everything in a subscription), but it does at least let people pick and choose what they want, and do so in a fairly clear way. And at least that way, people who buy everything and then complain about the bloat have largely brought it on themselves. [/QUOTE]

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