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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shin Okada" data-source="post: 4831231" data-attributes="member: 1956">Well, IMHO, talking with your players is always the first step you should take.You will not likely to solve the situation without knowing why those players (and other players) do not try to research the possibility of other spells.Maybe they just don't like to or can't have enough ardor to read through heavy rule-books just for having a good evening hack'n slash.Or maybe they simply like to play one-trick pony.Not all the people enjoy the same kind of play (or the same aspect of a game).Talk with your players and try to find something both you and the players can enjoy.It is good to try allure players for using something. But do not try to force them to do so.Maybe, those 2 players should play much simpler characters (like Barbarian and Paladin) and other players should play spellcasters.Or, maybe you should quit using 3.5e and use some much simpler RPG rule set or RPGs which focuses on different aspects.Or, simply introducing warmage, favored soul or some specialized caster build (including prestige classes) and such may satisfy them.But anyway, you should first talk with your players and know why they play like that.</blockquote>