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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5000192" data-attributes="member: 19675">More details and answers to your questions:1) Yes, to qualify for Geomancer (either edition), my minimum base class requirements would be Clc3 or Drd3/Wiz3.&nbsp; And as you rightfully recognize, Geomancer would take away from the Shapechanging, especially in a 3Ed campaign where that power comes at 5th (as I recall).I checked the Drifts, and found them to be essentially identical.&nbsp; Right now, I'm leaning for taking all the &quot;planty&quot; ones.&nbsp; As I recall, the odd thing about that is that there are 2 at Drift 1, 2 at Drift 2, and 1 at Drift 3...and that's it.&nbsp; The DM is a pretty good guy and may let me &quot;reskin&quot; some of the Drift options to reflect a further drift into the plant world.2)&nbsp; In keeping with the planty trend, I was thinking that the Cleric of Obad-Hai would have Plant and Earth as his domains.3)&nbsp; Wiz gives you more of the big name offensive spells, sometimes at lower levels than Clc (if both classes have them).&nbsp; At this point, I'm leaning towards Clc3/Wiz3/Geo6 (making the effective spellcaster levels of Clc7/Wis5), or Clc3/Wiz5/Geo4 with the same spellcaster levels.&nbsp; With either build, the PC will be able to cast his full arsenal of arcane spells in full armor, but in the latter, he'll get that bonus Metamagic or Item Creation feat.The open question, of course, is which Metamagic or Item Creation feats, if any, make this PC click?&nbsp; Empower is a semi-obvious one, since I can use it to boost both offensive spells and whatever heals I toss.&nbsp; But are there any others?&nbsp; Extend?&nbsp; Reach?&nbsp; Energy Sub (in 3Ed, &quot;sonic&quot; is still available, but I'm not sure I can justify it for this PC)?4)&nbsp; I'm really trending towards making this PC a Transmuter on the Wiz side, eschewing Conjuration spells.&nbsp; Unless I misunderstand the rules, he'd still be able to use clerical Conjuration spells, right?5)&nbsp; As yet, I can't use anything like Precocious Apprentice or Focused Specialist- they're not in the allowed sourcebooks.&nbsp; Neither are flaws.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5000192, member: 19675"] More details and answers to your questions: 1) Yes, to qualify for Geomancer (either edition), my minimum base class requirements would be Clc3 or Drd3/Wiz3. And as you rightfully recognize, Geomancer would take away from the Shapechanging, especially in a 3Ed campaign where that power comes at 5th (as I recall). I checked the Drifts, and found them to be essentially identical. Right now, I'm leaning for taking all the "planty" ones. As I recall, the odd thing about that is that there are 2 at Drift 1, 2 at Drift 2, and 1 at Drift 3...and that's it. The DM is a pretty good guy and may let me "reskin" some of the Drift options to reflect a further drift into the plant world. 2) In keeping with the planty trend, I was thinking that the Cleric of Obad-Hai would have Plant and Earth as his domains. 3) Wiz gives you more of the big name offensive spells, sometimes at lower levels than Clc (if both classes have them). At this point, I'm leaning towards Clc3/Wiz3/Geo6 (making the effective spellcaster levels of Clc7/Wis5), or Clc3/Wiz5/Geo4 with the same spellcaster levels. With either build, the PC will be able to cast his full arsenal of arcane spells in full armor, but in the latter, he'll get that bonus Metamagic or Item Creation feat. The open question, of course, is which Metamagic or Item Creation feats, if any, make this PC click? Empower is a semi-obvious one, since I can use it to boost both offensive spells and whatever heals I toss. But are there any others? Extend? Reach? Energy Sub (in 3Ed, "sonic" is still available, but I'm not sure I can justify it for this PC)? 4) I'm really trending towards making this PC a Transmuter on the Wiz side, eschewing Conjuration spells. Unless I misunderstand the rules, he'd still be able to use [I]clerical[/I] Conjuration spells, right? 5) As yet, I can't use anything like Precocious Apprentice or Focused Specialist- they're not in the allowed sourcebooks. Neither are flaws. [/QUOTE]

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