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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 6981714" data-attributes="member: 284">Do you need to?&nbsp;&nbsp; I mean presumably they did this as a group and are hoping to get some benefit from it.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you immediately shut it down, that's not fun for the players.&nbsp; It's annoying and feels very adversarial.&nbsp; What's the point of making the characters good at something if the DM is immediately going to punish you for it?&nbsp; Why even play the game if you aren't allowed to get even minor benefits from your decisions?&nbsp; But assuming you aren't planning on being a jerk DM right away, there are plenty of ways to challenge a party of dark-vision characters.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Use opponents that have longer range on their darkvision (drow - 120 ft darkvision, Duergar - 120 ft darkvision, etc) and then use ranged attacks with hit'n'run tactics.Send Warlocks with Devil Sight and Darkness against them.&nbsp;&nbsp; Have enemy casters use Fog Cloud (heavy obscurement that darkvision doesn't help with),&nbsp; Invisibility (darkvision is no help),&nbsp; etc.Have enemies burrow up from below.&nbsp; Have enemies use deception to get close before attacking.&nbsp; (i.e. appearing helpless, appearing like peasants or townsfolk,&nbsp; appearing to be mugged, etc.)&nbsp; There are many, many situations where darkvision is irrelevant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 6981714, member: 284"] Do you need to? I mean presumably they did this as a group and are hoping to get some benefit from it. If you immediately shut it down, that's not fun for the players. It's annoying and feels very adversarial. What's the point of making the characters good at something if the DM is immediately going to punish you for it? Why even play the game if you aren't allowed to get even minor benefits from your decisions? But assuming you aren't planning on being a jerk DM right away, there are plenty of ways to challenge a party of dark-vision characters. Use opponents that have longer range on their darkvision (drow - 120 ft darkvision, Duergar - 120 ft darkvision, etc) and then use ranged attacks with hit'n'run tactics. Send Warlocks with Devil Sight and Darkness against them. Have enemy casters use Fog Cloud (heavy obscurement that darkvision doesn't help with), Invisibility (darkvision is no help), etc. Have enemies burrow up from below. Have enemies use deception to get close before attacking. (i.e. appearing helpless, appearing like peasants or townsfolk, appearing to be mugged, etc.) There are many, many situations where darkvision is irrelevant. [/QUOTE]

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