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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheOneGargoyle" data-source="post: 8163383" data-attributes="member: 6924207">Thanks for the reply !  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Oooh, ok, if Treantmonk uses that figure then I'd probably go with his, he's more likely to have the right of it than me I would say.  Having said that, my calcs are pretty simple (maybe that's the issue?), I've sent it in case you want to have a look.Cool, I've sent it in a "Conversation", is that the same as a Private Message/Direct Message on these boards ?Hmmm ... ok, just spit-balling here, but what if we made an assumption (at least to give us a starting point) that the fight is against monsters with CR equal to the PC level, and use the Attack Bonus & Expected DPR from the same table on p274 of the DMG ?  We could use the Adventuring XP/day table on p84 of the DMG combined with the XP Thresholds on p82 to work out an averaged encounters per day, which looks to be about 6-8 Medium, 4-5 Hard or about 3 Deadly encounters per day.  Unless they're doing a dungeon bash or something, I don't know of any tables that actually do that many encounters per day, but that's the guidelines in the DMG.Now b/c of the Tasha's changes to # of bladesongs, it would mean the BS won't have enough bladesongs for all encounters of a day ... it feels a bit like cherry-picking, but it's also to make the maths easier I guess, but what if we said something like 3 Hard-Deadly Encounters per day in which the BS will use both a bladesong and a conc spell (Shadowblade, Spirit Shroud, etc) and 3 Easy-Medium encounters per day in which they won't use either ?  (we'd need to check this fits into the xp per day though).We can then use the XP by CR table on p10 of the Monster Manual and use our assumed rule of fighting monsters of CR equal to PCs (or maybe vary that by 1 CR up or down for the harder or easier encounters?) and that would give us average Attack bonus & DPR for a set of encounters per day for each PC level.It's a bit of cross-referencing obviously, but it would give us what we need .... what do you think ?  Yes, this would be interesting to see but I think Utility is an order of magnitude harder to quantify than Defense ...My gut feel says the same but I feeling some EK's might at the very least want some persuasion <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />Well, even tho we're not prioritising Intelligence, a 14 and at later levels, more, means we're still smart enough to prefer NOT to be hit I think <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />Nice.Ahh yep, that makes sense.For sure.  Was thinking that very end section might be a good place for some notes to that effect.Ahh, yep, gotcha.  Maybe you could call that out somewhere (if you didn't already - maybe I missed it).Love it, keep up the awesome work !!</blockquote>

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