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<blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 4038127" data-attributes="member: 1003">I'm sorry, but what do you mean by &quot;exclude&quot;?&nbsp; Are you suggesting that the PHB has blank pages in it that could have had a more complete grapple system in it but for WotC's diabolical plan to sell you a Martial Power in Fall, 2008 for another $30?Because I'm under the impression that the Core RBs are chock full o' crunchy goodness; and that while the exact mix of archetypes and rule options they've decided to include for the first go-round might not be exactly what I would have picked, they'll still be good and useful rules for playing D&amp;D.Because I'm further under the impression that the 4E devs are over-flowing with cool ideas to support 4E and they're really saying to each other &quot;Darn, this is awesome! I wish we could fit this in the PHB without making a 1000 page tome (which would kill sales and not be good for WotC or the players of D&amp;D because WotC would close down the D&amp;D department if sales tanked). Luckily we'll still be in business next year, so we can put it in PHB II or a Advanced Grappler Splatbook and the player base will have the option of buying it then, since it's impossible to sell it to them now without killing off D&amp;D just like TSR almost did.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Irda Ranger, post: 4038127, member: 1003"] I'm sorry, but what do you mean by "exclude"? Are you suggesting that the PHB has blank pages in it that could have had a more complete grapple system in it but for WotC's diabolical plan to sell you a Martial Power in Fall, 2008 for another $30? Because I'm under the impression that the Core RBs are chock full o' crunchy goodness; and that while the exact mix of archetypes and rule options they've decided to include for the first go-round might not be exactly what I would have picked, they'll still be good and useful rules for playing D&D. Because I'm further under the impression that the 4E devs are over-flowing with cool ideas to support 4E and they're really saying to each other "Darn, this is awesome! I wish we could fit this in the PHB without making a 1000 page tome (which would kill sales and not be good for WotC or the players of D&D because WotC would close down the D&D department if sales tanked). Luckily we'll still be in business next year, so we can put it in PHB II or a Advanced Grappler Splatbook and the player base will have the option of buying it then, since it's impossible to sell it to them now without killing off D&D just like TSR almost did." [/QUOTE]

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