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Aasimar and Tiefling should be Themes or templates, not races
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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 5823804" data-attributes="member: 11697"><p>They didn't start off in 2e as "human only". Tieflings as presented as PC races in Planescape were a race unto themselves because tieflings on the planes tended to be often far removed from the original fiendish mating that produced their bloodline. And what's more they often tended to be of mixed origins, combining multiple fiendish and multiple mortal races in their family history. It was never a human stock with different versions of elven tieflings or dwarven tieflings. There was also the fact that fiendish blood tended to dominate and wash out the contributions of whatever singular or multiple mortal races might have contributed to a planetouched's family tree.</p><p></p><p>Late 3e started going a different direction with them, at least by one interpretation, with a few different WotC books containing things like the durzagon, the tannaruk, and fey'ri*. That sort of muddied things a bit, and since then there seems to be this odd assumption that tieflings (and aasimar) are exclusively human. I'd prefer 5e take steps to bring tieflings and other planetouched to where they began.</p><p></p><p>Then 4e went off the rails and not only made it human based, but only diabolic in origin. I really hope this idea gets dropped.</p><p></p><p>*though technically this doesn't count since they were described not as elven tieflings, but as a distinct line of true-breeding tieflings of gold elf and tanar'ri stock</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 5823804, member: 11697"] They didn't start off in 2e as "human only". Tieflings as presented as PC races in Planescape were a race unto themselves because tieflings on the planes tended to be often far removed from the original fiendish mating that produced their bloodline. And what's more they often tended to be of mixed origins, combining multiple fiendish and multiple mortal races in their family history. It was never a human stock with different versions of elven tieflings or dwarven tieflings. There was also the fact that fiendish blood tended to dominate and wash out the contributions of whatever singular or multiple mortal races might have contributed to a planetouched's family tree. Late 3e started going a different direction with them, at least by one interpretation, with a few different WotC books containing things like the durzagon, the tannaruk, and fey'ri*. That sort of muddied things a bit, and since then there seems to be this odd assumption that tieflings (and aasimar) are exclusively human. I'd prefer 5e take steps to bring tieflings and other planetouched to where they began. Then 4e went off the rails and not only made it human based, but only diabolic in origin. I really hope this idea gets dropped. *though technically this doesn't count since they were described not as elven tieflings, but as a distinct line of true-breeding tieflings of gold elf and tanar'ri stock [/QUOTE]
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