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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Witness" data-source="post: 1048678" data-attributes="member: 1500">The setup:  A group of PC's discover a portal that leads back in time one-thousand years.  A number of characters (not mine) decide to go through the portal and remain in the past.  As the character's are fairly important to the campaign, the DM allows those player's whose characters went into the past to reassume control of those characters after having been in the past for the last thousand years.  It is an evil campaign, and those character's who went into the past have stayed alive by a ritual that steals the life from the living.  The ritual has slowed their aging, not stopped it completly, so they've all physically aged only 50-75 years over the past one-thousand years.  Those who went into the past are all elves.  Because of the amount of time the've physically aged, the characters all received the ability score adjustments from being middle aged.The problem: In addition to the adjustments for being middle-age, they received the bonuses to mental stats for being venerable, despite not suffering the penalties to physical stats.  They argued that the bonuses were a result of experience and knowledge acquired over one-thousand years.  I argued that no correlation exists between actual age and ability adjustments;  despite living hundreds of years, elves gain no more bonus for being old than humans do.  To further complicate things, during the in-between time, one of them became undead (vampire), and the other became something like a monstrous humanoid or shapechanger.The question(s): Are ability adjustments from aging a result of physical age or actual age?  Do immortal creatures continually gain bonuses to Int, Wis, and Cha?  Do certain creatures gain bonuses and penalties to aging at a different rate? Are these guys munchkin *BLEEP**BLEEP*'s or what!!???</blockquote>

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