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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8219377" data-attributes="member: 6987520">The OP. Maybe they already specified the intent and I missed it (the price of being on the forums while distracted LOL)?&nbsp; <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> Because, the information they found (IMO) basically just shifts what 5E presents as the levels (roughly) since &quot;easy&quot; is always 8, &quot;moderate&quot; is about 12ish, and hard averages out around 16. You can use the information from that page in two ways:1. To design your adventure to meet the party you expect to meet it (as you and other suggest), but the challenge remains constant and the DC is not adjusted.2. To adjust the DCs (changing the &quot;difficulty&quot;) to match the party level regardless of when they meet it. A challenge might be DC 13 at level 1 but DC 19 at level 20 even though the &quot;challenge&quot; remains the same.The former is what I am hoping the OP wants the information for, but I have known DMs who use such information to do the latter.Also, the information they reference suggests a universal success rate of 65%. As I mentioned, IMO 65% success does not make a challenge &quot;hard&quot;, it is actually rather moderate in my view.Anyway, if that isn't clear, I'll clarify it after work when I get home tonight. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8219377, member: 6987520"] The OP. Maybe they already specified the intent and I missed it (the price of being on the forums while distracted LOL)? 🤷‍♂️ Because, the information they found (IMO) basically just shifts what 5E presents as the levels (roughly) since "easy" is always 8, "moderate" is about 12ish, and hard averages out around 16. You can use the information from that page in two ways: 1. To design your adventure to meet the party you expect to meet it (as you and other suggest), but the challenge remains constant and the DC is not adjusted. 2. To adjust the DCs (changing the "difficulty") to match the party level regardless of when they meet it. A challenge might be DC 13 at level 1 but DC 19 at level 20 even though the "challenge" remains the same. The former is what I am hoping the OP wants the information for, but I have known DMs who use such information to do the latter. Also, the information they reference suggests a universal success rate of 65%. As I mentioned, IMO 65% success does not make a challenge "hard", it is actually rather moderate in my view. Anyway, if that isn't clear, I'll clarify it after work when I get home tonight. :) [/QUOTE]

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