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Ability Checks - Should they be errata'd?
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<blockquote data-quote="Dalzig" data-source="post: 4495587" data-attributes="member: 71406"><p>If Stephen Hawking is considered a High-Level character [21-30?], then he better be damn well able to break down that door. A crippled person doesn't get to Epic levels without learning how to move around environments. He could probably use telekinesis to bust open the door. Or maybe he summons a black hole for a micro-nanosecond to obliterate the door.</p><p></p><p>The justification is that Epic characters are AWESOME! Yes, they are "Caps Lock is Cruise Control for Awesome" Awesome. For an Epic character to be stopped by a door that a level 1 minotaur could open is a travesty. </p><p></p><p>Then again, this discussion negates the fact that since Stephen Hawking developed ALS, he would have died within weeks of his first showing of symptoms if he were in a D&D world. </p><p></p><p>As for ramifications of getting rid of 1/2 level bonuses to ability checks... Well, for one thing, DCs in Paragon/Epic would become ridiculously hard compared to the heroic tier. </p><p></p><p>Second, you would have level 30 wizards getting stuck in a room with a wooden door. There are no rules for getting through a door besides breaking it down, blowing it up, or bypassing it. The wizard would be unable to break down the simple door because that relies on Str. He could blow it up, but that would be highly inefficient depending on how many doors you come across. He could bypass it, but that also requires spells or rituals, which are even more time consuming than destroying the door.</p><p></p><p>In short, get rid of 1/2 level bonus if you want Epic wizards to be unable to open a stuck jar of pickles. Funny? Maybe. Heroic or Epic? No.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dalzig, post: 4495587, member: 71406"] If Stephen Hawking is considered a High-Level character [21-30?], then he better be damn well able to break down that door. A crippled person doesn't get to Epic levels without learning how to move around environments. He could probably use telekinesis to bust open the door. Or maybe he summons a black hole for a micro-nanosecond to obliterate the door. The justification is that Epic characters are AWESOME! Yes, they are "Caps Lock is Cruise Control for Awesome" Awesome. For an Epic character to be stopped by a door that a level 1 minotaur could open is a travesty. Then again, this discussion negates the fact that since Stephen Hawking developed ALS, he would have died within weeks of his first showing of symptoms if he were in a D&D world. As for ramifications of getting rid of 1/2 level bonuses to ability checks... Well, for one thing, DCs in Paragon/Epic would become ridiculously hard compared to the heroic tier. Second, you would have level 30 wizards getting stuck in a room with a wooden door. There are no rules for getting through a door besides breaking it down, blowing it up, or bypassing it. The wizard would be unable to break down the simple door because that relies on Str. He could blow it up, but that would be highly inefficient depending on how many doors you come across. He could bypass it, but that also requires spells or rituals, which are even more time consuming than destroying the door. In short, get rid of 1/2 level bonus if you want Epic wizards to be unable to open a stuck jar of pickles. Funny? Maybe. Heroic or Epic? No. [/QUOTE]
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