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<blockquote data-quote="rogueboy" data-source="post: 4175919" data-attributes="member: 61742">I've been lurking on the forums for a while trying to get a feel for how 4e's going to work, but I haven't posted until now.Moving on to my actual question, I've noticed that a lot of the monster stat blocks that have been released have modifiers that don't seem to follow from the 'standard' ability modifier determinations we're used to in 3.x, and what I understand to be continuing in 4e, at least for players.For example, the Succubus has Str 11 (+4), Dex 18 (+8), Wis 19 (+8), Con 10 (+4), Int 15 (+6), Cha 22 (+10), and the Pit Fiend has Str 32 (+24), Dex 24 (+20), Wis 20 (+18),Con 27 (+21), Int 22 (+19), Cha 28 (+22). Each monster seems to be consistent across it's stats (a stat that is 2n higher than another has a modifier n higher), but it doesn't seem consistent with the 10 base for PCs, or even with any base value for monsters. The Succubus seems to use 2 as the 'base' (no modifier) stat score, while the Pit Fiend seems to use -16 as the base stat score.Have I missed something, or is this something that other people have noticed and wondered about?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rogueboy, post: 4175919, member: 61742"] I've been lurking on the forums for a while trying to get a feel for how 4e's going to work, but I haven't posted until now. Moving on to my actual question, I've noticed that a lot of the monster stat blocks that have been released have modifiers that don't seem to follow from the 'standard' ability modifier determinations we're used to in 3.x, and what I understand to be continuing in 4e, at least for players. For example, the Succubus has Str 11 (+4), Dex 18 (+8), Wis 19 (+8), Con 10 (+4), Int 15 (+6), Cha 22 (+10), and the Pit Fiend has Str 32 (+24), Dex 24 (+20), Wis 20 (+18), Con 27 (+21), Int 22 (+19), Cha 28 (+22). Each monster seems to be consistent across it's stats (a stat that is 2n higher than another has a modifier n higher), but it doesn't seem consistent with the 10 base for PCs, or even with any base value for monsters. The Succubus seems to use 2 as the 'base' (no modifier) stat score, while the Pit Fiend seems to use -16 as the base stat score. Have I missed something, or is this something that other people have noticed and wondered about? [/QUOTE]

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