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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zappo" data-source="post: 193748" data-attributes="member: 633">In my campaign, there is the same human ratio as in any other, and demihumans don't seem to be more powerful in any respect. Yes, 25 points means that the unmodified stats will rarely include more than one 16. Actually, sometimes a player will not even take a 16 and opt for a few of 14s and a 15 to be bumped up at 4th level. This is especially true of fighters; less so for spellcasters who usually raise their key stat as much as possible (sometimes to 18, though these characters tend to be less successful overall). Anyway, this is not 2e... a 14 is far from useless.Also, while I do get characters with 8s in CHA, they are usually roleplayed well. There's a dwarf druid with 6 CHA in the campaign I'm currently DMing and he is very annoying, for example.Players who really do powergame find that their characters aren't very successful for one reason or another, and tend to die horribly, usually from disasters they brought on their heads themselves while I even appear to be pulling my punches and seem desperate because I don't want their PCs to die. I'm a very subtle bastard, as I hope that something will slowly seep to the their subconscious about insane and asocial characters not working well.When I want to play a high powered campaign, I tell the players to make higher level characters.</blockquote>