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<blockquote data-quote="amethal" data-source="post: 2473797" data-attributes="member: 22784">I agree, but I've never before seen it commented upon. The debate has always seemed to revolve around &quot;players cheat, so use point buy&quot;.I like your arguments, but why?If I want to play an archer cleric, and my minimum ability score requirements are modest, why can't I have them even if my rolls fall short?My cheating character had the lowest ability scores in a party of 6 (none of them rolled in front of the DM).If I want to choose the character, then roll the dice, is the DM really entitled to say that the dice are what is important and I need to base my character concept on the result?To put it another way, I'm not willing to be flexible in my character concept. If I want to play an archer cleric, I'm not willing to play a useless archer or a useless cleric, or compromise as a barbarian because that would make best use of what I've rolled.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="amethal, post: 2473797, member: 22784"] I agree, but I've never before seen it commented upon. The debate has always seemed to revolve around "players cheat, so use point buy". I like your arguments, but why? If I want to play an archer cleric, and my minimum ability score requirements are modest, why can't I have them even if my rolls fall short? My cheating character had the lowest ability scores in a party of 6 (none of them rolled in front of the DM). If I want to choose the character, then roll the dice, is the DM really entitled to say that the dice are what is important and I need to base my character concept on the result? To put it another way, I'm not willing to be flexible in my character concept. If I want to play an archer cleric, I'm not willing to play a useless archer or a useless cleric, or compromise as a barbarian because that would make best use of what I've rolled. [/QUOTE]

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