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<blockquote data-quote="FreeTheSlaves" data-source="post: 2475821" data-attributes="member: 9952"><p>I'll take a stab at this "special character" definition.</p><p></p><p>History: d&d originally used 3d6 in order & a character with 1 or more 15s was rare & "special".</p><p></p><p>Portablility: characters would be transferred over from one adventure to adventure, there was no campaign just a series of episodes. Characters were directly compared with each other rather than viewed within their campaign context.</p><p></p><p>Contempory: players want to have a special character relative to the other players existing characters & to their own previous characters. Specialness is defined by having a set of scores that are amazing compared to the others but they want these scores to be pseudo-legitimate. In effect this type of player wants a random & wide variance of possible scores but want their character to be special by occupying the upper decile of the range. It is an amazing mentality based (I think) on, if not adversarial gaming then very competitive gaming in some sort of effort to "win" by 'beating' the other players with amazing scores. I'd even go further to suggest that it is a hopelessly optimistic mentallity that does not recognize the probability of getting average scores, & when this not surprisingly happens, well, then the cheating begins.</p><p></p><p>Solution: ensure the player rolls the agreed method & enforce the results fairly. If need be revise rolling method to better suit the players vision.</p><p></p><p>****</p><p></p><p>Otoh, a special character could simply refer to a character that the player loves playing & all the group enjoy interacting with. This is my definition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FreeTheSlaves, post: 2475821, member: 9952"] I'll take a stab at this "special character" definition. History: d&d originally used 3d6 in order & a character with 1 or more 15s was rare & "special". Portablility: characters would be transferred over from one adventure to adventure, there was no campaign just a series of episodes. Characters were directly compared with each other rather than viewed within their campaign context. Contempory: players want to have a special character relative to the other players existing characters & to their own previous characters. Specialness is defined by having a set of scores that are amazing compared to the others but they want these scores to be pseudo-legitimate. In effect this type of player wants a random & wide variance of possible scores but want their character to be special by occupying the upper decile of the range. It is an amazing mentality based (I think) on, if not adversarial gaming then very competitive gaming in some sort of effort to "win" by 'beating' the other players with amazing scores. I'd even go further to suggest that it is a hopelessly optimistic mentallity that does not recognize the probability of getting average scores, & when this not surprisingly happens, well, then the cheating begins. Solution: ensure the player rolls the agreed method & enforce the results fairly. If need be revise rolling method to better suit the players vision. **** Otoh, a special character could simply refer to a character that the player loves playing & all the group enjoy interacting with. This is my definition. [/QUOTE]
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