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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Barendd Nobeard" data-source="post: 2478333" data-attributes="member: 960">In games I run, stats are rolled in front of me.In my Cthulhu game, a new player was joining and asked if I wanted me to wait until we met to roll the stats (we had already worked on the basic character concept).  I said no, but that if the stats were too high I'd just knock them down a bit.  Fortunately, that wasn't necessary.I like rolling with a witness, just to see the incredible rolls (on both ends of the spectrum)I had a friend joining the Eberron game I play in.  He rolled several sets of scores, but none of them were "legal" characters by the PHB rules (total stat mods < 1, no single score at 14+, etc).  He then switched dice and actually rolled two 18's and two 17's for the character (or maybe it was three 18's and one 17; it was 4d6 drop low method).  If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't have believed it.It's going to be tough to change your player's problem PC, because you already let him play the PC.  I'm sort of amazed that you had this problem with him before, but didn't check his character carefully this time.  The time for the "cheating" talk was before the game started.  You can still have the talk now, but it sort of looks bad since you already "approved" the character.If you don't want a direct confrontation, you can (1) drain stats in game (but other PCs may get hurt with that method), or (2) put them in situations where his uber-stats don't help (as a Goliath, maybe he needs to negotiate something with another Goliath tribe--or even a human city).If you do decide for a direct confrontation (and I actually think this is the best route), talk to him in private.  There's no need to embarass him in front of the group....unless you think public humiliation is the only remedy.</blockquote>

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