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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7962598" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>You have a point, let me expand.</p><p></p><p>A character under point buy will definitely be at a point where ASIs and feats are both desirable. As you take more of one, you will sate it some and the other may become more desirable. In general it's a hard choice for a 4th level character picking their first ASI/feat (less so for vHuman), and a 20th level character will likely have both ASIs and feats.</p><p></p><p>For rolling it's a bit different. Just like over 6 rolls you'll have variation, over 5 sets of rolls - that is to say all the characters - you'll have variation. You'll get some who may have rolled a well but nothing too high so ASIs are a lot more compelling of a pick. You'll have some where the ability or abilities they need are already high so a feat is a lot more compelling pick. You have people who just didn't roll all that good so they need ASIs - a lot of them - just to contribute and survive. And may have the opposite, the great set of rolls that there's nor reason not to take feats.</p><p></p><p>For a lot of them, the choice isn't balanced - ASI or feat are not equal to them. So there's less opportunity cost, less Faustian bargain, and more what the mechanics are telling me / freeing me to do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7962598, member: 20564"] You have a point, let me expand. A character under point buy will definitely be at a point where ASIs and feats are both desirable. As you take more of one, you will sate it some and the other may become more desirable. In general it's a hard choice for a 4th level character picking their first ASI/feat (less so for vHuman), and a 20th level character will likely have both ASIs and feats. For rolling it's a bit different. Just like over 6 rolls you'll have variation, over 5 sets of rolls - that is to say all the characters - you'll have variation. You'll get some who may have rolled a well but nothing too high so ASIs are a lot more compelling of a pick. You'll have some where the ability or abilities they need are already high so a feat is a lot more compelling pick. You have people who just didn't roll all that good so they need ASIs - a lot of them - just to contribute and survive. And may have the opposite, the great set of rolls that there's nor reason not to take feats. For a lot of them, the choice isn't balanced - ASI or feat are not equal to them. So there's less opportunity cost, less Faustian bargain, and more what the mechanics are telling me / freeing me to do. [/QUOTE]
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