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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 4335558" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>If there's one key, critical thing in 4e, it's making your attack roll. You have one primary stat that determines that, and if it's good, you're OK, if it's great, you have a persistent advantage through all 30 levels, and if it's inadequate, you can never catch up. The point-buy rule makes a high stat prohibitively expensive, so the racial bonus is a necessity. </p><p></p><p>If you had no racial bonuses, you'd have to reduce the difficulties of challenges across the board. Only a little, but it would still have to come down.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The human racial bonus for everyone is just fine to retain balance (you could call it a 'heroic bonus,' instead, perhaps). The other racial bonuses are there to do exactly what you don't like: steer choices into particular race/class combos, instead of handing out explicit favored classes like in 3e, or race/class restrictions like in 1&2e. If you want any race to be able to excell at any class, then the +2 to one stat of choice bonus is the way to go. The Human's racial bonus is basically balanced with the other races, as are the human's other racial advantages. </p><p></p><p>Doing so would weaken the 'theme' of each race, though. The human is supposed to be the most flexible race, and all it's racials re-inforce that, including the stat bonus. If everyone gets that stat bonus, the relative flexibility of humans is reduced. Since that's exactly what you want to accomplish, though, it's not a problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 4335558, member: 996"] If there's one key, critical thing in 4e, it's making your attack roll. You have one primary stat that determines that, and if it's good, you're OK, if it's great, you have a persistent advantage through all 30 levels, and if it's inadequate, you can never catch up. The point-buy rule makes a high stat prohibitively expensive, so the racial bonus is a necessity. If you had no racial bonuses, you'd have to reduce the difficulties of challenges across the board. Only a little, but it would still have to come down. The human racial bonus for everyone is just fine to retain balance (you could call it a 'heroic bonus,' instead, perhaps). The other racial bonuses are there to do exactly what you don't like: steer choices into particular race/class combos, instead of handing out explicit favored classes like in 3e, or race/class restrictions like in 1&2e. If you want any race to be able to excell at any class, then the +2 to one stat of choice bonus is the way to go. The Human's racial bonus is basically balanced with the other races, as are the human's other racial advantages. Doing so would weaken the 'theme' of each race, though. The human is supposed to be the most flexible race, and all it's racials re-inforce that, including the stat bonus. If everyone gets that stat bonus, the relative flexibility of humans is reduced. Since that's exactly what you want to accomplish, though, it's not a problem. [/QUOTE]
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