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<blockquote data-quote="Scribe" data-source="post: 8369880" data-attributes="member: 6807152">The point is to offer fair competition. There are a few weight classes that are at or very near (+/- 2KG) between both men and women. The records for the men are all higher, at a glance, even within weight classes which are comparable.So you are right overall body size is not the only quality we care about. Not only is overall body size relevant, as expected the higher weight classes lift more, but also if you are a man or woman, is relevant.By virtue of removing everything that is the same, yes they are.<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Training. Both train.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Temperament of a competitor. Both are competitive.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Interest in lifting. Both share interest in lifting.</li>
</ul>All things being equal, what is the difference? Men, on average, probably lift more than women. Lifting weights, is 'lifting more' than someone else.Remove everything else, what is left. Its lifting. If men on average lift more, then men on average make better weightlifters, and the records (I'm looking at olympics) bear this out.And what does all this mostly irrelevant tangent of mine boil down to?Goliaths should be better Barbarians with a +2 to Str, and should on average be stronger than Halfings or Gnomes. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scribe, post: 8369880, member: 6807152"] The point is to offer fair competition. There are a few weight classes that are at or very near (+/- 2KG) between both men and women. The records for the men are all higher, at a glance, even within weight classes which are comparable. So you are right overall body size is not the only quality we care about. Not only is overall body size relevant, as expected the higher weight classes lift more, but also if you are a man or woman, is relevant. By virtue of removing everything that is the same, yes they are. [LIST] [*]Training. Both train. [*]Temperament of a competitor. Both are competitive. [*]Interest in lifting. Both share interest in lifting. [/LIST] All things being equal, what is the difference? Men, on average, probably lift more than women. Lifting weights, is 'lifting more' than someone else. Remove everything else, what is left. Its lifting. If men on average lift more, then men on average make better weightlifters, and the records (I'm looking at olympics) bear this out. And what does all this mostly irrelevant tangent of mine boil down to? Goliaths should be better Barbarians with a +2 to Str, and should on average be stronger than Halfings or Gnomes. :D [/QUOTE]

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