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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8371937" data-attributes="member: 6795602">This thread brought up biological essentialism and biological determinism.&nbsp; There's another concept that seems to be getting lumped in with them and maybe it belongs or maybe it already has another name.So far all the explanations of essentialism and determinism have been at the individual level.&nbsp; However, can such ideas not also be applied to groups?&nbsp; As someone previously noted, 'the available evidence shows that the group of all men is essentially and deterministically better at an activity like weight lifting than the group of all women' (at least with respect to the amount of weight lifted).&nbsp; If that shouldn't be called biologic essentialism or determinism then what should it be called?Because up till now I've used those terms to describe that phenomenon (and others) and I'm thinking now that maybe I'm not the only one and maybe that is part of the broader disconnect in these discussions?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 8371937, member: 6795602"] This thread brought up biological essentialism and biological determinism. There's another concept that seems to be getting lumped in with them and maybe it belongs or maybe it already has another name. So far all the explanations of essentialism and determinism have been at the individual level. However, can such ideas not also be applied to groups? As someone previously noted, 'the available evidence shows that the group of all men is essentially and deterministically better at an activity like weight lifting than the group of all women' (at least with respect to the amount of weight lifted). If that shouldn't be called biologic essentialism or determinism then what should it be called? Because up till now I've used those terms to describe that phenomenon (and others) and I'm thinking now that maybe I'm not the only one and maybe that is part of the broader disconnect in these discussions? [/QUOTE]

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