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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8373113" data-attributes="member: 23751">My bad.&nbsp; I've only seen one non-variant human, so I forgot that they get +1 to all stats as a base <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :P"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />That's why for balance reasons you just give Goliaths a +2 and be done with it.It matters when you realize that Goliaths should hit hard than humans due to being stronger.&nbsp; Perhaps they should have +3 to strength and no +1.&nbsp; How is Goliaths being able to lift twice what humans can a tautology?&nbsp; From where I'm sitting, that's a fact.No. That's not my argument.&nbsp; Goliaths can lift twice what humans can(fact), making them much stronger than humans(fact), therefore they should get a +2 strength bonus is my argument.It was working before.&nbsp; Your preference for floating ASI's doesn't break the game as it was run prior.&nbsp; Nothing broken=nothing to fix.Physiology doesn't change in 100 years, let alone so drastically.&nbsp; She is not evidence that somehow women were stronger than men 100 years ago.Cool beans.&nbsp; That doesn't change my argument or the facts.It is impossible. At least at the top. It's a fact that training methods and achieving top human performance has improved drastically even over the last few decades, let alone 100 years.&nbsp; In 1989 the gap for 82.5k(weight of lifter) was Women: 210kg Men :390kg.&nbsp; So now you're basically arguing that physiology changed over 70 years.&nbsp; It didn't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8373113, member: 23751"] My bad. I've only seen one non-variant human, so I forgot that they get +1 to all stats as a base :P That's why for balance reasons you just give Goliaths a +2 and be done with it. It matters when you realize that Goliaths should hit hard than humans due to being stronger. Perhaps they should have +3 to strength and no +1. How is Goliaths being able to lift twice what humans can a tautology? From where I'm sitting, that's a fact. No. That's not my argument. Goliaths can lift twice what humans can(fact), making them much stronger than humans(fact), therefore they should get a +2 strength bonus is my argument. It was working before. Your preference for floating ASI's doesn't break the game as it was run prior. Nothing broken=nothing to fix. Physiology doesn't change in 100 years, let alone so drastically. She is not evidence that somehow women were stronger than men 100 years ago. Cool beans. That doesn't change my argument or the facts. It is impossible. At least at the top. It's a fact that training methods and achieving top human performance has improved drastically even over the last few decades, let alone 100 years. In 1989 the gap for 82.5k(weight of lifter) was Women: 210kg Men :390kg. So now you're basically arguing that physiology changed over 70 years. It didn't. [/QUOTE]

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