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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8373390" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>Because they're useful tools for measuring things in-game. They are not the end-all and be-all of a character.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, so <em>here </em>theme is important! It's not important when a scary half-orc can shrug off a killing blow, but it's suddenly important now?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Speaking of which, loxodon (elephant-people, if you're not aware) are bigger and heavier than goliaths and get no Strength bonus at all--but a Strength 10 loxodon can lift a halfling in its trunk, and as a race they get Powerful Build. Meanwhile, both slender githyanki and short dwarfs get +2 Strength. Centaurs also have +2 Strength, even though "logically" their human arms shouldn't be <em>particularly </em>strong. And orcs are only a bit larger than the average human, but they get both a Strength bonus and Powerful Build.</p><p></p><p>This is why I don't care about the ASIs. They're often entirely random or have weak justifications. And that's not even getting into <em>mental </em>stats. </p><p></p><p>Plus, of course, ideas about what a race is like may change as time goes on. In 1e, half-orcs were specced as <em>assassins</em>, not warriors. I don't think they could even <em>be </em>barbarians back then. Who knows what half-orcs will look like by the time 6th or 7th edition comes out?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. A person who focuses on their niche will be better than someone who doesn't. So why should an orc who <em>doesn't </em>focus on strength have to be better than or almost as good as someone a non-orc who does?</p><p></p><p></p><p>All elves have Fey Heritage, Trance, Keen Senses, and Elf Weapon Training. Therefore, all elf PCs will resemble the rest of their species.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Because D&D isn't a point-buy game like GURPS where you can buy any traits you want for your character? Because everyone has the same six stats but they all have different traits, and no matter what you might want to think, ASIs and traits are actually very different things? Because historically, halflings don't have wings, so talk to your DM if you want to play one who does and I'm pretty sure that in the old-old Spelljammer comic there was a human with wings so there's precedent.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8373390, member: 6915329"] Because they're useful tools for measuring things in-game. They are not the end-all and be-all of a character. Oh, so [I]here [/I]theme is important! It's not important when a scary half-orc can shrug off a killing blow, but it's suddenly important now? Speaking of which, loxodon (elephant-people, if you're not aware) are bigger and heavier than goliaths and get no Strength bonus at all--but a Strength 10 loxodon can lift a halfling in its trunk, and as a race they get Powerful Build. Meanwhile, both slender githyanki and short dwarfs get +2 Strength. Centaurs also have +2 Strength, even though "logically" their human arms shouldn't be [I]particularly [/I]strong. And orcs are only a bit larger than the average human, but they get both a Strength bonus and Powerful Build. This is why I don't care about the ASIs. They're often entirely random or have weak justifications. And that's not even getting into [I]mental [/I]stats. Plus, of course, ideas about what a race is like may change as time goes on. In 1e, half-orcs were specced as [I]assassins[/I], not warriors. I don't think they could even [I]be [/I]barbarians back then. Who knows what half-orcs will look like by the time 6th or 7th edition comes out? Sure. A person who focuses on their niche will be better than someone who doesn't. So why should an orc who [I]doesn't [/I]focus on strength have to be better than or almost as good as someone a non-orc who does? All elves have Fey Heritage, Trance, Keen Senses, and Elf Weapon Training. Therefore, all elf PCs will resemble the rest of their species. Because D&D isn't a point-buy game like GURPS where you can buy any traits you want for your character? Because everyone has the same six stats but they all have different traits, and no matter what you might want to think, ASIs and traits are actually very different things? Because historically, halflings don't have wings, so talk to your DM if you want to play one who does and I'm pretty sure that in the old-old Spelljammer comic there was a human with wings so there's precedent. [/QUOTE]
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