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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8375924" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Resembling is not irrelevant. Resembling is a connection, the thing you have claimed that you have none of towards real life. You've never directly Custer's Last Stand? Fine. Have you referenced any last stand ever? Congrats, you have made a connection between fantasy and reality. Is it a direct connection that paints a point by point picture? No, but it is a connection.I legitimately don't understand how you don't see connections. Nothing you bolded connects to a real world thing? Well, let me think, talking about guilt and innocence. Do you think that might connect to the theory of "Innocent until proven guilty"? The cornerstone of the American legal system? Does this mean you need to have an in-depth discussion of legal theory and how it applies in the American Legal System? No, obviously not. But just because we aren't having a 30 hour dissertation on legal philosophy doesn't mean that there is no connections that could be drawn. And yes, language does connect the real world to the world of fantasy. Concepts and ideas connect to themselves.No. They aren't, and you have never demonstrated that an effective +1 to a stat is somehow important.A half dozen that have the exact same ability scores you think that might have been important? Yes, I took half a dozen races that have the exact same ability score to help demonstrate that having the exact same ability scores do not make them all the same race. If it doesn't work on six races, why would it work on a hundred? If Orcs, Minotaurs and Goliaths who have the exact same ability scores aren't the same race, then why should we believe that extending that list t Orcs, Minotaurs, Goliaths, Elves, Dwarves, Gnomes, Humans, and Tabaxi would make them all the same race? I understood what you were saying, I'm just finding an example, smaller scale sure, but of EXACTLY the same scenario, and showing that your theory is wrong. If I can show that races with the exact same ability scores aren't seen as a single race... then why should we believe that if all races have the exact same ability score they will be seen as a single race?I'm not applying my perspective to your words, I'm applying it to your theory. And proving it false. We have exactly the scenario you describe, and the result is not what you describe. Yes, I know, "exactly" isn't right because it is only six races that should be seen as identical and not a hundred, but if it doesn't work for six, why should it work for a hundred?No, what you have done is far closer to an allusion. A reference does not have to be exact. What you are trying to put forth here is the idea that if I said "you see a painting on the wall" that I can't possibly have any connection to anything in the real world, including paintings and walls, because I didn't say "you see a 1661 Vermeer hanging from the oak wall of dutch family home." Language is the connection. The ideas are the connection. You can't talk about murder without referencing the idea of murder, the fact that murder happens, that it has certain elements and tropes associated with it. You can't say "murder isn't real" can you? Just because you are not referencing a specific murder, doesn't mean you aren't referencing murder.</blockquote>

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