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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8376490" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Yes, exactly. I never said there was a connection to a specific event. I said a connection to the real world.Then you could say it is non-sensical for elves to have access to Heavy Armor Mastery, Great Weapon Master, Durable, Tough, Grappler. Inspiring Leader, Polearm Master, Savage Attacker, Crusher or Tavern Brawler. After all, those abilities are based in Strength, Constitution and Charisma and elves don't get a +2 to any of those scores.How do you justify that under this framework you are proposing where you can only get feats that give you abilities if you have a+2 of the associated score?Except, they don't. That's not what stats do. Or racial abilities. These things are not tied directly together like you seem to think.Which is literally my claim!! I wouldn't say it is extremely tenuous, since child murder by a caretaker is exactly what you were talking about, but that is the connection I'm speaking of. Not to a specific event, to the reality in general.No, a reference does not need to be specific in the way that I am using it. I'm not using it like a reference page of a textbook, I'm using it in the manner of "to refer to". If your whole problem with my idea is that you don't like the word I used, then too bad. I'm not going to argue over definitions with you. You get the concept well enough.That is literal nonsense. So what, it isn't that orcs, minotaurs and goliaths (who still get the same racial bonuses) are one race, but they are 80% the same race? 75%? The same issue applies to your statement as before, only worse. First of all, you are saying that they aren't the same race. If two things are 75% the same, then they aren't the same. Secondly, again, having the same racial bonuses doesn't make them two similiar, as we see when we literally look at races with the same racial bonuses in the game right now.I understand the difference between what you said and what I heard... which is basically that you didn't want to commit to your idea, so you used a single word to indicate that they weren't completely identical... which is kind of obvious considering that saying 3 ft tall dragon people and 9 foot tall elephant people are the same is nonsense, no matter what bonuses they get to their imaginary numbers.</blockquote>

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