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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8378056" data-attributes="member: 6801228">This shows a complete and utter lack of understanding of the complaints at hand, to an almost insulting degree. The issue isn't that people want every single stat identical between characters, heck, if the elf is a rogue the dwarf is a fighter and the tiefling is a warlock those bonuses are exactly what they want. The issue is is that if the elf is a rogue, and the tiefling is a rogue then the +2 CHA is likely NOT what they want. Because Dexterity is tied to every single aspect of being a rogue, and so the elf makes a better rogue. A fact you very clearly seem to understand, because of the bit I bolded. The player has the option of picking a +2 Dex race... meaning that they are incentivized to not just play any race when playing a rogue, but a specific subset of races. It isn't that +2 =/= +2&nbsp; it is that Rogues should equal Rogue, but if you don't pick a race with a dex bonus, you are a worse rogue at the key elements of being a rogue. And the only reason that is being kept around is because people want to put the various races/lineages/species in a box and say &quot;only these classes are good for these races&quot; out of a false sense that this somehow makes the world more realistic. It doesn't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8378056, member: 6801228"] [B][/B] This shows a complete and utter lack of understanding of the complaints at hand, to an almost insulting degree. The issue isn't that people want every single stat identical between characters, heck, if the elf is a rogue the dwarf is a fighter and the tiefling is a warlock those bonuses are exactly what they want. The issue is is that if the elf is a rogue, and the tiefling is a rogue then the +2 CHA is likely NOT what they want. Because Dexterity is tied to every single aspect of being a rogue, and so the elf makes a better rogue. A fact you very clearly seem to understand, because of the bit I bolded. The player has the option of picking a +2 Dex race... meaning that they are incentivized to not just play any race when playing a rogue, but a specific subset of races. It isn't that +2 =/= +2 it is that Rogues should equal Rogue, but if you don't pick a race with a dex bonus, you are a worse rogue at the key elements of being a rogue. And the only reason that is being kept around is because people want to put the various races/lineages/species in a box and say "only these classes are good for these races" out of a false sense that this somehow makes the world more realistic. It doesn't. [/QUOTE]

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