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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8381125" data-attributes="member: 23751">I don't care what you believe.&nbsp; Your belief is not relevant to the truth of the situation.&nbsp; One of my players likes looking up stats and combos.&nbsp; I don't.&nbsp; I choose concept and then just create it, regardless of power level. You are correct.&nbsp; It was 19.&nbsp; The game ended shortly after we reached 12th level and a 19 is functionally an 18, so I misremembered.&nbsp; And the human variant was not an optimal choice.&nbsp; It was a roleplaying choice.&nbsp; Anything else was coincidental.&nbsp;&nbsp; You don't get to make my RP choices into powergaming choices. Intent matters.&nbsp; And no, I didn't pick keen mind to get +1 int.&nbsp; I picked it because I don't take notes and have ADD and the corresponding memory issues, so I wanted to be able to get reminders about what my character had heard.Not one.&nbsp; I don't care about the guides and eking out plusses and extra .5 points of damage per round.Yes.&nbsp; I had the ability to swap stats and could have put the 18 I rolled into intelligence, starting with a 19 int at first level and hitting 20 at 4th with my first feat, while also starting with an 18 in dex.&nbsp; It absolutely could have been optimized better at first level.&nbsp; I left it at dex, because elves are dexterous.&nbsp; I also could have picked a much better feat for wizards at 4th level, but I didn't.&nbsp; I picked keen mind.No matter how&nbsp; you slice it, I was not building for power.&nbsp; I made that character for roleplay with the only conscious choice in optimizing being the +1 int for high elf.When it comes to powergaming, much better.&nbsp; None of that changes the fact that I did not optimize those PCs other than the racial bonuses.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8381125, member: 23751"] I don't care what you believe. Your belief is not relevant to the truth of the situation. One of my players likes looking up stats and combos. I don't. I choose concept and then just create it, regardless of power level. You are correct. It was 19. The game ended shortly after we reached 12th level and a 19 is functionally an 18, so I misremembered. And the human variant was not an optimal choice. It was a roleplaying choice. Anything else was coincidental. You don't get to make my RP choices into powergaming choices. Intent matters. And no, I didn't pick keen mind to get +1 int. I picked it because I don't take notes and have ADD and the corresponding memory issues, so I wanted to be able to get reminders about what my character had heard. Not one. I don't care about the guides and eking out plusses and extra .5 points of damage per round. Yes. I had the ability to swap stats and could have put the 18 I rolled into intelligence, starting with a 19 int at first level and hitting 20 at 4th with my first feat, while also starting with an 18 in dex. It absolutely could have been optimized better at first level. I left it at dex, because elves are dexterous. I also could have picked a much better feat for wizards at 4th level, but I didn't. I picked keen mind. No matter how you slice it, I was not building for power. I made that character for roleplay with the only conscious choice in optimizing being the +1 int for high elf. When it comes to powergaming, much better. None of that changes the fact that I did not optimize those PCs other than the racial bonuses. [/QUOTE]

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