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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8381288" data-attributes="member: 6795602">Okay, but was it mentioned in the post I replied to?most abilities are much better for some class than others (although most non-asi racial abilities aren’t as useless for other classes as say +2 str is for a typical).So, I think your claim here is going in the right direction, just not quite on target.most mages can solve the seeing at night problem with a cantrip. It’s nice but not particularly great for them.I think it’s naive to assume people won’t optimize based on what’s available to optimize with. In many ways certain racial abilities are at least as strong as ASIs when paired with certain classes.I agree with the premise but not the conclusion.&nbsp; I think each player has their own threshold for what is balanced. I don’t even see why races need balanced across classes.not every option is going to be equally playable to all people.&nbsp; And that’s okay because there’s no other way for it to be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 8381288, member: 6795602"] Okay, but was it mentioned in the post I replied to? most abilities are much better for some class than others (although most non-asi racial abilities aren’t as useless for other classes as say +2 str is for a typical). So, I think your claim here is going in the right direction, just not quite on target. most mages can solve the seeing at night problem with a cantrip. It’s nice but not particularly great for them. I think it’s naive to assume people won’t optimize based on what’s available to optimize with. In many ways certain racial abilities are at least as strong as ASIs when paired with certain classes. I agree with the premise but not the conclusion. I think each player has their own threshold for what is balanced. I don’t even see why races need balanced across classes. not every option is going to be equally playable to all people. And that’s okay because there’s no other way for it to be. [/QUOTE]

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