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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8381560" data-attributes="member: 6801228">If anyone is obsessed with that +1 you keep talking about, it is an obsession with keeping that +1 from certain race/class combos. We've got people accusing us of all sorts of things, all because we want to play a concept that isn't pre-approved to have their blessing of a 16. A halfling warlock with a 16 charisma? Obvious powergamer, obsessed with making the strongest character they can. Half-Elf warlock with a 16 charisma? Perfectly normal roleplayer, no problem whatsoever with this person. But, you know what, maybe they picked a half-elf because it IS more powerful. And maybe they might have played the fun halfling concept that they had first, but when they were given the choice, they didn't see a reason not to play the half-elf, which is far stronger, fits with the class better, and moved on from there. But, we must be powergamers and optimizers and rollplayers because we want that 16 charisma on the wrong race. It is just a constant parade of how terrible we must be, how we must be liars, how we should just admit is it all about power and we don't care about story, instead of recognizing that I can tell a story with both of those characters. Maybe even mostly the same story, so... I have no incentive to choose the first option, and all the reasons to pick the second,&nbsp; but trying to make those two options more equal just shows my true nature as a person who is obsessed with being better than everyone else. It's just exhausting. And especially so since this thread started out on such a positive note, and here we are again, back in the trenches, defending ourselves and our integrity.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8381560, member: 6801228"] If anyone is obsessed with that +1 you keep talking about, it is an obsession with keeping that +1 from certain race/class combos. We've got people accusing us of all sorts of things, all because we want to play a concept that isn't pre-approved to have their blessing of a 16. A halfling warlock with a 16 charisma? Obvious powergamer, obsessed with making the strongest character they can. Half-Elf warlock with a 16 charisma? Perfectly normal roleplayer, no problem whatsoever with this person. But, you know what, maybe they picked a half-elf because it IS more powerful. And maybe they might have played the fun halfling concept that they had first, but when they were given the choice, they didn't see a reason not to play the half-elf, which is far stronger, fits with the class better, and moved on from there. But, we must be powergamers and optimizers and rollplayers because we want that 16 charisma on the wrong race. It is just a constant parade of how terrible we must be, how we must be liars, how we should just admit is it all about power and we don't care about story, instead of recognizing that I can tell a story with both of those characters. Maybe even mostly the same story, so... I have no incentive to choose the first option, and all the reasons to pick the second, but trying to make those two options more equal just shows my true nature as a person who is obsessed with being better than everyone else. It's just exhausting. And especially so since this thread started out on such a positive note, and here we are again, back in the trenches, defending ourselves and our integrity. [/QUOTE]

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