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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8383659" data-attributes="member: 7032025"><p>Oh yes there is. A lot. It's not worth doing it if you don't think that it will not benefit the players, but the players need to respect the work that you are doing so that they can enjoy the game. And that respect starts with listening to what the DM has prepared, with an open mind, and complying with his requests in terms of world building, ambiance and power level.</p><p></p><p>If you disagree, you can always leave, but I've DMed for more than 40 years using these methods and no one has ever walked out of my games. Ever.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They do. Not for powergaming reasons (although it's often the case in other groups), but for our groups, it's about larger than life heroes, so having heroic stats, both high and low, help in characterising extraordinary PCs (yes, they are sometimes over the top, and fairly caricatural, but that's the way Heroic Fantasy and in particular High Fantasy works, and we like it that way).</p><p></p><p>The standard array is very very bland, to be honest, and no-one at our tables ever use it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To be fair, while we think that the standard array is bland, and we do not use it, we would certainly not forbid it either. </p><p></p><p>And you are right to point out that a character can have the standard array (and therefore fairly bland stats from our point of view) and be extremely interesting in terms of role or personality.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't agree. And I know, it's in the trend to complain about bad DMs, but I can honestly say that in 40+ years and thousands of game, I have never ever had a bad DM. Some DMs were more to my taste than others, but nothing ever really bad.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, I've had scores of really, really bad players, of all breeds.</p><p></p><p>Respect your DM and the work he does for your entertainment, and his choices, because he is a clever guy, probably more clever than you, and who has made his choices for a reason. As he is not playing for himself, by default, think that the choices were made for YOUR entertainment during his games. If you make these hypothesis, I can guarantee that you will enjoy the game a lot more.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8383659, member: 7032025"] Oh yes there is. A lot. It's not worth doing it if you don't think that it will not benefit the players, but the players need to respect the work that you are doing so that they can enjoy the game. And that respect starts with listening to what the DM has prepared, with an open mind, and complying with his requests in terms of world building, ambiance and power level. If you disagree, you can always leave, but I've DMed for more than 40 years using these methods and no one has ever walked out of my games. Ever. They do. Not for powergaming reasons (although it's often the case in other groups), but for our groups, it's about larger than life heroes, so having heroic stats, both high and low, help in characterising extraordinary PCs (yes, they are sometimes over the top, and fairly caricatural, but that's the way Heroic Fantasy and in particular High Fantasy works, and we like it that way). The standard array is very very bland, to be honest, and no-one at our tables ever use it. To be fair, while we think that the standard array is bland, and we do not use it, we would certainly not forbid it either. And you are right to point out that a character can have the standard array (and therefore fairly bland stats from our point of view) and be extremely interesting in terms of role or personality. I don't agree. And I know, it's in the trend to complain about bad DMs, but I can honestly say that in 40+ years and thousands of game, I have never ever had a bad DM. Some DMs were more to my taste than others, but nothing ever really bad. On the other hand, I've had scores of really, really bad players, of all breeds. Respect your DM and the work he does for your entertainment, and his choices, because he is a clever guy, probably more clever than you, and who has made his choices for a reason. As he is not playing for himself, by default, think that the choices were made for YOUR entertainment during his games. If you make these hypothesis, I can guarantee that you will enjoy the game a lot more. [/QUOTE]
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