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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8383957" data-attributes="member: 7032025"><p>Come on. This was 1e PH and even the Basic Set.</p><p></p><p>2e was the worst edition ever, just copying and pasting, and even doing it wrong... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But you cannot dey that it was there right from the very first real editions (apart from OD&D).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>AD&D 1e PH Page 2 (introduction) and Page 7 (The Gane).</p><p></p><p>Basic Rules Page 2, section "What is roleplaying".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course you do when it's right in the introduction and explains what the game is about ! And they explain it exactly that way !</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>While that is true about some modules, look at the VIllage of Hommlet, which has this: "The persons that are met at the inn, along the road, and so forth, are you; for the Dungeon Master is all—monsters, NPCs, and all else but player characters. Play it to the hilt. Do it with flair and wit. Be fair both to the characters and to yourself. Be cunning but just and honest when in the role of a warding ranger. Be deceitful, clever, and thoroughly dishonest when acting the part of a thief. Think of the parts you take as those of characters you are playing, and act accordingly. But temper your actions with disinterest in the eventual outcome, and keep only the viewpoint of that particular role. Wearing two, three, or a dozen different hats is challenging, but that is part of being an outstanding DM."</p><p></p><p>True roleplaying here as an advice to the DM.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is, with proof from the rulebooks and some modules, I'm sure I can find more.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it's because that is a caricature.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And then, I have given you incontrovertible evidence that, from the very first rulebooks and some of the adventures, it was intended that way by the designers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8383957, member: 7032025"] Come on. This was 1e PH and even the Basic Set. 2e was the worst edition ever, just copying and pasting, and even doing it wrong... :p But you cannot dey that it was there right from the very first real editions (apart from OD&D). AD&D 1e PH Page 2 (introduction) and Page 7 (The Gane). Basic Rules Page 2, section "What is roleplaying". Of course you do when it's right in the introduction and explains what the game is about ! And they explain it exactly that way ! While that is true about some modules, look at the VIllage of Hommlet, which has this: "The persons that are met at the inn, along the road, and so forth, are you; for the Dungeon Master is all—monsters, NPCs, and all else but player characters. Play it to the hilt. Do it with flair and wit. Be fair both to the characters and to yourself. Be cunning but just and honest when in the role of a warding ranger. Be deceitful, clever, and thoroughly dishonest when acting the part of a thief. Think of the parts you take as those of characters you are playing, and act accordingly. But temper your actions with disinterest in the eventual outcome, and keep only the viewpoint of that particular role. Wearing two, three, or a dozen different hats is challenging, but that is part of being an outstanding DM." True roleplaying here as an advice to the DM. It is, with proof from the rulebooks and some modules, I'm sure I can find more. No, it's because that is a caricature. And then, I have given you incontrovertible evidence that, from the very first rulebooks and some of the adventures, it was intended that way by the designers. [/QUOTE]
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