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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8385220" data-attributes="member: 23751">Clearly you don't understand, so we should probably leave it at that on this topic.When the result is clearly nonsense, you should ask if that was accurate, rather than responding to something you know was not intended.Only because most DMs don't bother to differentiate monsters. When I was younger and had more time to prep, I rolled for monster stats and hit points individually.I think my lowest was 7 back in 1e when we did 3d6 in order and keep what you roll.&nbsp; My lowest in 3e was 11.&nbsp; I don't remember what my 2e low was.Some of them don't train at all.&nbsp; The trope of the farmer's son taking up his father's sword to avenge him is pretty common.&nbsp; I did answer it.&nbsp; Right after my humor there.Because rules.&nbsp; They can do absolutely nothing requiring them to work out and exercise and get the same increase.&nbsp; That +2 unfortunately, isn't connect to anything in the game.&nbsp; I wish it was.Er, no.&nbsp; They make jokes about the hordes of people who all play against type in that way.&nbsp; A new archetype was not created.Or go for heavy, or just not care and get charismaOr they can do strength and charisma and ignore dex.You're mixing up all kinds of things there.&nbsp; Average elves get compared to average other races.&nbsp; Exceptional elves get compared to exceptional other races.&nbsp; And then your conclusion doesn't logically follow your thought in any case.&nbsp; As members of that race, they would get the racial ASI regardless of whether they are exceptional or not.&nbsp; Exceptionality doesn't have anything to do with the racial bonus.Okay.&nbsp; That's just how they do it for their game, though.&nbsp; [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] has never argued that the way he treats PCs is the way it should be done in my game or yours.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8385220, member: 23751"] Clearly you don't understand, so we should probably leave it at that on this topic. When the result is clearly nonsense, you should ask if that was accurate, rather than responding to something you know was not intended. Only because most DMs don't bother to differentiate monsters. When I was younger and had more time to prep, I rolled for monster stats and hit points individually. I think my lowest was 7 back in 1e when we did 3d6 in order and keep what you roll. My lowest in 3e was 11. I don't remember what my 2e low was. Some of them don't train at all. The trope of the farmer's son taking up his father's sword to avenge him is pretty common. I did answer it. Right after my humor there. Because rules. They can do absolutely nothing requiring them to work out and exercise and get the same increase. That +2 unfortunately, isn't connect to anything in the game. I wish it was. Er, no. They make jokes about the hordes of people who all play [B]against type[/B] in that way. A new archetype was not created. Or go for heavy, or just not care and get charisma Or they can do strength and charisma and ignore dex. You're mixing up all kinds of things there. Average elves get compared to average other races. Exceptional elves get compared to exceptional other races. And then your conclusion doesn't logically follow your thought in any case. As members of that race, they would get the racial ASI regardless of whether they are exceptional or not. Exceptionality doesn't have anything to do with the racial bonus. Okay. That's just how they do it for their game, though. [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] has never argued that the way he treats PCs is the way it should be done in my game or yours. [/QUOTE]

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