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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8385807" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Ok, so first off, I want to point something out. It wasn't that I couldn't find a dwarven wizard, it was that you were very specific that "a dwarf in armor casting wall of fire" is suddenly shocking to these creatures, because Dwarves can't do that. When, it is literally a domain spell for the Forge cleric, and dwarven Forge clerics are common place. </p><p></p><p>But fine, I just need to show you one, just one dwarven wizard was an official product. </p><p></p><p>Theoderus Stoneblood from the Mysteries of Moonsea by Thomas M. Reid, Sean K. Reynolds, Darrin Drader, Wil Upchurch</p><p></p><p>I also considered Drake Thunderbrand and the Thunderbrand clan from Exandria, but <em>technically</em>, only the continent of Wildemount is official, while the continent of Tal'dorie is unofficial. </p><p></p><p>I additionally considered checking into the dwarves of the House of Kundarak from Eberron, since they are masters of abjuration magic. They likely have some famous wizards, but I didn't want to get into a discussion about Eberron "not counting" so I went for the low-hanging fruit. </p><p></p><p>Now, what was the other race/class combo I have to show you in an official product, because we all know if it doesn't show up in an official product, it can't exist. </p><p></p><p>Ah right, Halfling Barbarian. A bit harder, because halflings are rarely heroes and wizards and clerics are much more commonly side-characters. </p><p></p><p>Not a named character, but according to the FR wiki barbarians can be found among the tribes of the Chondalwood, which includes tribes of Ghostwise halflings. And it does specifically call them out as having a barbarian tradition "Barbarians from other races were relatively rare, though among elves there were the wild elves, <strong>among halflings the ghostwise</strong>, and among dwarves the wild dwarves, <strong>each of which possessed barbarian traditions."</strong> Seems this came from the Races of Faerun by Eric L. Boyd, Matt Forbeck, and James Jacobs</p><p></p><p>AHA, there we go, just had to look up more Ghostwise lore, Perinsa Falmarya would be your halfling Barbarian, seems she was from an Wizards of the Coast article titles " Perinsa Falmarya the Wanderer" by Robert Wiese in 2003. </p><p></p><p></p><p>So, there you go. An official Dwarven Wizard and an official Halfling barbarian, from a subrace of halfling barbarians, which is in 5e. They were introduced in the SCAG</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No contradiction. For a strength fighter a 12 isn't anywhere nearly good enough. </p><p></p><p>But to pick up and move 200 lbs, a 12 to 13 is plenty. Heck, a guy with strength 10 can lift 300 lbs over his head. He also can't swing a sword worth a crap and will do pathetic damage with a strength based weapon. </p><p></p><p>The contradiction isn't with me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8385807, member: 6801228"] Ok, so first off, I want to point something out. It wasn't that I couldn't find a dwarven wizard, it was that you were very specific that "a dwarf in armor casting wall of fire" is suddenly shocking to these creatures, because Dwarves can't do that. When, it is literally a domain spell for the Forge cleric, and dwarven Forge clerics are common place. But fine, I just need to show you one, just one dwarven wizard was an official product. Theoderus Stoneblood from the Mysteries of Moonsea by Thomas M. Reid, Sean K. Reynolds, Darrin Drader, Wil Upchurch I also considered Drake Thunderbrand and the Thunderbrand clan from Exandria, but [I]technically[/I], only the continent of Wildemount is official, while the continent of Tal'dorie is unofficial. I additionally considered checking into the dwarves of the House of Kundarak from Eberron, since they are masters of abjuration magic. They likely have some famous wizards, but I didn't want to get into a discussion about Eberron "not counting" so I went for the low-hanging fruit. Now, what was the other race/class combo I have to show you in an official product, because we all know if it doesn't show up in an official product, it can't exist. Ah right, Halfling Barbarian. A bit harder, because halflings are rarely heroes and wizards and clerics are much more commonly side-characters. Not a named character, but according to the FR wiki barbarians can be found among the tribes of the Chondalwood, which includes tribes of Ghostwise halflings. And it does specifically call them out as having a barbarian tradition "Barbarians from other races were relatively rare, though among elves there were the wild elves, [B]among halflings the ghostwise[/B], and among dwarves the wild dwarves, [B]each of which possessed barbarian traditions."[/B] Seems this came from the Races of Faerun by Eric L. Boyd, Matt Forbeck, and James Jacobs AHA, there we go, just had to look up more Ghostwise lore, Perinsa Falmarya would be your halfling Barbarian, seems she was from an Wizards of the Coast article titles " Perinsa Falmarya the Wanderer" by Robert Wiese in 2003. So, there you go. An official Dwarven Wizard and an official Halfling barbarian, from a subrace of halfling barbarians, which is in 5e. They were introduced in the SCAG No contradiction. For a strength fighter a 12 isn't anywhere nearly good enough. But to pick up and move 200 lbs, a 12 to 13 is plenty. Heck, a guy with strength 10 can lift 300 lbs over his head. He also can't swing a sword worth a crap and will do pathetic damage with a strength based weapon. The contradiction isn't with me. [/QUOTE]
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