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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8386073" data-attributes="member: 6855114">Far from that. Yours is in the gutter. You realize that except for the dwarven cleric, all the&nbsp; classes you mentioned are not typical dwarven adventurers as they are on the same level of rarity as a dwarven mage? The dwarven adventurer is already rare and among dwarven adventurers these are about the same rarity. They have an equal surprising value in my eyes. A ton of possibility does not make the dwarven adventurer more common and the odd chance that the adventurer chooses a class that is not favored by racial ASI is even rarer. Of these, only the Ranger (strength based) and Eldritch knight would be in accordance with dwarven ASI (more or less). And I see a perfect rule set that is up to date and perfectly valid. You don't like it? Don't use it. Your games your rule. But by RAW with fixed ASI you know that I am right.And here we are again. You use non core books to justify your position where I specifically said that I use only core book. 3 books. That is PHB, DMG and MM. Keep to these and your argumentation falls apart. Who cares? Everyone knows that all elves do magicks. I know that. You know that. The trolls know that too and so do the kobolds and goblins. Common knowledge where the monsters or foes when seeing an elf will assume that some magic will be set against them.And fixed ASI do not penalized anyone. There are no stat penalty for playing a perticular race in 5ed. Are your rule books upto date?But jokes aside, again, when monsters' reactions are on my side it is metagaming, and when it is on your side it is acceptable? Come on man, RP is RP. You can't justify your position with it and deny me mine.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 8386073, member: 6855114"] Far from that. Yours is in the gutter. You realize that except for the dwarven cleric, all the classes you mentioned are not typical dwarven adventurers as they are on the same level of rarity as a dwarven mage? The dwarven adventurer is already rare and among dwarven adventurers these are about the same rarity. They have an equal surprising value in my eyes. A ton of possibility does not make the dwarven adventurer more common and the odd chance that the adventurer chooses a class that is not favored by racial ASI is even rarer. Of these, only the Ranger (strength based) and Eldritch knight would be in accordance with dwarven ASI (more or less). And I see a perfect rule set that is up to date and perfectly valid. You don't like it? Don't use it. Your games your rule. But by RAW with fixed ASI you know that I am right. And here we are again. You use non core books to justify your position where I specifically said that I use only core book. 3 books. That is PHB, DMG and MM. Keep to these and your argumentation falls apart. Who cares? Everyone knows that all elves do magicks. I know that. You know that. The trolls know that too and so do the kobolds and goblins. Common knowledge where the monsters or foes when seeing an elf will assume that some magic will be set against them. And fixed ASI do not penalized anyone. There are no stat penalty for playing a perticular race in 5ed. Are your rule books upto date? But jokes aside, again, when monsters' reactions are on my side it is metagaming, and when it is on your side it is acceptable? Come on man, RP is RP. You can't justify your position with it and deny me mine. [/QUOTE]

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