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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8386515" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>Hit points are an abstraction. They can be a bunch of different things. Stats and arrays are not an abstraction. They are what the game defines them as.</p><p></p><p>Lots of people only roll for stats. And lots only use arrays. What I do isn't the rarity you'd like it to be.</p><p></p><p>Nope. No more than the game is by limiting you to one class. This is not about your character no matter how much you try to make it be.</p><p></p><p>Two things. Rolling stats and no dragonborn. Big bad me. So horrible. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /></p><p></p><p>Not my fun. OUR fun. If you don't have fun rolling stats, don't play in a game that rolls stats. For me, I'm not going to play in a game with arrays. Easy peasy. Both of us get our fun. Neither one of us should play in a game where our fun is ruined. Easy peasy. Both of us get our fun.</p><p></p><p>You don't get to dictate to me what should or should not matter to my fun, just as I do not get to dictate what you should find fun or not. Don't do it.</p><p></p><p>Nope. I wouldn't say or think, "how dare this player try to ruin my fun." It would just be a no. Especially since the player agreed to roll or he wouldn't be in my game in the first place.</p><p></p><p>It absolutely 100% does assume rolling. That's what default is. An assumption made by the game. It assumes rolling and arrays both.</p><p></p><p>And yep, the game assumes that a full 1 in 5 people will not roll a 15 when they roll. That's a very significant number, so it can't assume that PCs will have a 15 before bonuses.</p><p></p><p>Yes. Your ridiculous real life stuff. It has no place in the game. The game definitions of these stats are what should be looked at.</p><p></p><p>I'm following what you are saying, but it's not relevant to this discussion. Nobody is saying we should mirror real life.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8386515, member: 23751"] Hit points are an abstraction. They can be a bunch of different things. Stats and arrays are not an abstraction. They are what the game defines them as. Lots of people only roll for stats. And lots only use arrays. What I do isn't the rarity you'd like it to be. Nope. No more than the game is by limiting you to one class. This is not about your character no matter how much you try to make it be. Two things. Rolling stats and no dragonborn. Big bad me. So horrible. :P Not my fun. OUR fun. If you don't have fun rolling stats, don't play in a game that rolls stats. For me, I'm not going to play in a game with arrays. Easy peasy. Both of us get our fun. Neither one of us should play in a game where our fun is ruined. Easy peasy. Both of us get our fun. You don't get to dictate to me what should or should not matter to my fun, just as I do not get to dictate what you should find fun or not. Don't do it. Nope. I wouldn't say or think, "how dare this player try to ruin my fun." It would just be a no. Especially since the player agreed to roll or he wouldn't be in my game in the first place. It absolutely 100% does assume rolling. That's what default is. An assumption made by the game. It assumes rolling and arrays both. And yep, the game assumes that a full 1 in 5 people will not roll a 15 when they roll. That's a very significant number, so it can't assume that PCs will have a 15 before bonuses. Yes. Your ridiculous real life stuff. It has no place in the game. The game definitions of these stats are what should be looked at. I'm following what you are saying, but it's not relevant to this discussion. Nobody is saying we should mirror real life. [/QUOTE]
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