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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8388880" data-attributes="member: 23751">No it wasn't. It wasn't even part of my point. You don't get to tell me what my point is.This is a Strawman.&nbsp; You don't get to alter my point and then argue your created fiction and still have a valid argument.Nope.&nbsp; I find it less realistic.And that's wrong.&nbsp; I've seen people(one or two and no I don't remember who) talking about gestalt PCs for 5th edition. It's not many, but it's higher than &quot;no one.&quot;The must be an imbalance between classes.&nbsp; Perfect balance is an impossibility if you don't want to give every class the same exact abilities.&nbsp; It's the same with races as well.I'm not talking about modern flat earthers.&nbsp; I'm talking about well in the past before the better techniques arrived.&nbsp; And it's not just flat earthers.&nbsp; Humans have gotten things wrong as a whole quite a bit.&nbsp; A coin flip is not the same.&nbsp; If rolling rarely produces a the array, it's not equivalent to the array.&nbsp; The array adds up to 72.&nbsp; Here are the totals for those 10 rolls. Note how not a single one equaled the array.1: 762: 763: 864: 745: 806: 567: 818: 749: 8110: 75Wait! So 0 out of 10 are equivalent and only 30% are even close, and I'm strengthening your claim that the two methods are equal?!Fully 50% are wildly off with 86, 80, 81, 81, and 56.&nbsp; 20% are just off with 76 and 76.&nbsp; And 30% are somewhat off with the numbers you show.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8388880, member: 23751"] No it wasn't. It wasn't even part of my point. You don't get to tell me what my point is. This is a Strawman. You don't get to alter my point and then argue your created fiction and still have a valid argument. Nope. I find it less realistic. And that's wrong. I've seen people(one or two and no I don't remember who) talking about gestalt PCs for 5th edition. It's not many, but it's higher than "no one." The must be an imbalance between classes. Perfect balance is an impossibility if you don't want to give every class the same exact abilities. It's the same with races as well. I'm not talking about modern flat earthers. I'm talking about well in the past before the better techniques arrived. And it's not just flat earthers. Humans have gotten things wrong as a whole quite a bit. A coin flip is not the same. If rolling rarely produces a the array, it's not equivalent to the array. The array adds up to 72. Here are the totals for those 10 rolls. Note how not a single one equaled the array. 1: 76 2: 76 3: 86 4: 74 5: 80 6: 56 7: 81 8: 74 9: 81 10: 75 Wait! So 0 out of 10 are equivalent and only 30% are even close, and I'm strengthening your claim that the two methods are equal?! Fully 50% are wildly off with 86, 80, 81, 81, and 56. 20% are just off with 76 and 76. And 30% are somewhat off with the numbers you show. [/QUOTE]

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