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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Creeping Death" data-source="post: 4476113" data-attributes="member: 253">According to this article: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_retardation" target="_blank">Mental retardation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a>, Grade level children with an IQ below 70 would be classified as mentally retarded.  Quote from the article: In early childhood mild mental retardation (IQ 60–70) may not be obvious, and may not be identified until children begin school.In the US we begin school at 5.  I seem to remember that some D&D designer said that you can't take the Int chart and multiply by 10 to get IQ, it just doesn't work that way.D&D terms, I think an Int below 3 you are unable to communicate, this is the realm of animals, I don't even think they get an alignments or if they do it is neutral.  Someone with that low of an Intelligence would be unable to destinguish between right and wrong.Someone with really low Int would also be very childish and look at the world in childish views.  Case in point, I have a younger brother who is retarded (actually it is Prader-Willie syndrome).  Mentally and emotionally he is stuck at between 2-4 years of age, even though he has the body of 24 year old.  It was interesting and a little disheartening when I had children and they got old enough to start liking the things he likes; power rangers, pokemon, and certain movies or cartoons.  Now, my children 6 and 8 have pretty much out grown that, but my brother still likes that stuff and talks about it all the time.I would peg an Int 3 as severely retarded and an Int 4 as mild to moderatly retarded.  I would also tie it to wisdom as well.  So high Int low Wis would be someone who has a ton of common sense but couldn't figure out 70% of 50 if there were a sale going on.Low Int and Low wis, this would be mentally retarded.  I am talking extremes here.Low Wis, High Int, certain forms of autism.High Int, low to moderate wis and a young age: watch the movie "Little Man Tate".That's part of the problem with trying to tie D&D mental stats to real world mental abilities.  There are so many things that we are tying to Int, Wis, and Cha.  Look at Hitler, very high Cha, well loved by his followers hated by the rest of the world.  Charisma is also dependant on the person's POV.  Look at this years election, I think you have to have a high charisma to run for President, higher than most anyways.  If you like one candidate chances are you don't like the other.  Yet persuasion, diplomacy, and other such skills don't take that into consideration.  One cadidate will speak and some will say yeah that's good, and others might say "Wow, what spin".Dexterity has the same problem, just because I can dance across a tight rope 20 stories up on a windy day like it was nothing does not mean that I can from 100 yards away fire an arrow at a castle sending it through an arrow slit to hit the archer standing there.Anyways, I'm starting to ramble.  Basic point is you can't tie IQ to D&D Int, there are far too many other factors involved to do that.  At best you can guesstimate.</blockquote>

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