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<blockquote data-quote="glass" data-source="post: 2127529" data-attributes="member: 12251">Further to my idea about rejigging saves, here's how I'd probably divide it up:Ability Score&nbsp; &nbsp; Saves AgainstStrength&nbsp; &nbsp; Bull rush, Trip, etcDexterity&nbsp; &nbsp; area spells, TripConstition&nbsp; &nbsp; poison, disease, body related magicIntelligence&nbsp; &nbsp; Illusions, maze spellsIntuition&nbsp; &nbsp; not sure, spirit related stuff maybeWillpower&nbsp; &nbsp; things that are currently will (except charms)Personality&nbsp; &nbsp; charms, domination etcWith the above, I'd probably have two base save bonusses for classes: physical and mental. This is one reason for missing Perception from the list (the other is that perception seemed to have a big overlap with dex in this arangement).The reasoning behind separating charms out as a Per save is that the magic prevents you from applying your will to the problem, but you still get to save for doing things out of character.WHat do you think?glass.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="glass, post: 2127529, member: 12251"] Further to my idea about rejigging saves, here's how I'd probably divide it up: [b]Ability Score Saves Against[/b] Strength Bull rush, Trip, etc Dexterity area spells, Trip Constition poison, disease, body related magic Intelligence Illusions, maze spells Intuition not sure, spirit related stuff maybe Willpower things that are currently will (except charms) Personality charms, domination etc With the above, I'd probably have two base save bonusses for classes: physical and mental. This is one reason for missing Perception from the list (the other is that perception seemed to have a big overlap with dex in this arangement). The reasoning behind separating charms out as a Per save is that the magic prevents you from applying your will to the problem, but you still get to save for doing things out of character. WHat do you think? glass. [/QUOTE]

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