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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jeff Carlsen" data-source="post: 5791920" data-attributes="member: 61749">Because suspension of disbelief requires some elements be grounded in the familiar. The familiar can be exaggerated, but it can't be altogether broken.Which isn't to say that there isn't a place for humans that stretch beyond human potential through some otherworldly power. But I think that's the definition of epic level play. Levels 1-20 are for mortals, going from journeyman to grandmaster in a particular field. Above that is the path to godhood, or merging with a demon, or drinking from the well of immortality, or whatever.Now, there is a place for a type of fighter that uses magic to augment his abilities, but that's not the traditional fighter, who does it all through physical training.</blockquote>