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<blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 145356" data-attributes="member: 2829"><p>That's a DM judgement call that is required of the wish spell, so I don't have a problem with you making that decision, though there's no way in hell I would allow it. You wanna better tome? Find one or buy one.</p><p></p><p>There are 2 tremendous limitations to the wish spell that directly relate to this particular situation:</p><p></p><p>1) Grant a creature a +1 inherent bonus to an ability score. (One bonus per casting, if anyone argues this, I'll puke)</p><p>2) Create a valuable item, even a magic item, of up to 15,000 gp in value. (Take note of the part about <strong>15,000 GP</strong>, as this is kind of important.)</p><p></p><p>Now, if you use a wish spell to upgrade a +1 manual of gainful exercise to a +2 manual of gainful exercise, the upgrade to the tome all by itself costs 27,500 gp. Now, unless my math is messed up, 27,500 gp is just a teency weency bit higher than 15,000 gp.</p><p></p><p>So, my point is this:</p><p>1) A +1 manual of gainful exercise costs 27,500 gp</p><p>2) A +2 manual of gainful exercise costs 55,000 gp</p><p>3) The difference in cost between the two manuals is 27,500 gp, which is exactly half the cost of a +2 manual of gainful exercise, and exactly twice the cost of a +1 manual of gainful extercise.</p><p>4) The wish spell is limited to creating a magic item of <strong>up to 15,000 gp</strong>.</p><p></p><p>At some point, you need to draw the line with Wish. <strong>This</strong>, is where I draw the line.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kreynolds, post: 145356, member: 2829"] That's a DM judgement call that is required of the wish spell, so I don't have a problem with you making that decision, though there's no way in hell I would allow it. You wanna better tome? Find one or buy one. There are 2 tremendous limitations to the wish spell that directly relate to this particular situation: 1) Grant a creature a +1 inherent bonus to an ability score. (One bonus per casting, if anyone argues this, I'll puke) 2) Create a valuable item, even a magic item, of up to 15,000 gp in value. (Take note of the part about [B]15,000 GP[/B], as this is kind of important.) Now, if you use a wish spell to upgrade a +1 manual of gainful exercise to a +2 manual of gainful exercise, the upgrade to the tome all by itself costs 27,500 gp. Now, unless my math is messed up, 27,500 gp is just a teency weency bit higher than 15,000 gp. So, my point is this: 1) A +1 manual of gainful exercise costs 27,500 gp 2) A +2 manual of gainful exercise costs 55,000 gp 3) The difference in cost between the two manuals is 27,500 gp, which is exactly half the cost of a +2 manual of gainful exercise, and exactly twice the cost of a +1 manual of gainful extercise. 4) The wish spell is limited to creating a magic item of [B]up to 15,000 gp[/B]. At some point, you need to draw the line with Wish. [B]This[/B], is where I draw the line. [/QUOTE]
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