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<blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 6300664" data-attributes="member: 2167"><p>Ok, so I get the clarification on MP, but I included this as an option in my statement.</p><p><em>“Even if you only used 2MP to cast the spell, you'd have 50gc worth of material or Studded Leather SOAK 6.“</em></p><p>So why does the spell give a “Chain Shirt SOAK 4?” Was the mage who wrote the spell just lazy? You say <em>“just because you *can* create 250gc</em>” [actually 50gc in this instance] <em>”doesn't mean you have to.”</em> Why on earth would anyone bothering to spend the MP for the spell effect and then NOT take maximum effect. If I spend 2 MP and that means I can get armor that grants SOAK 6, why on earth would I only choose SOAK 4?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Morrus needs to clarify this then and the cantrip needs to be reworded. If that is so, then the spell is actually pretty useless. Not to mention it means the Mage Armor spell either seems to contradict this, OR as I stated earlier the ELEMENTAL OBJECT enhancement overrides the “specified effect type” rider which means ANY element could make “armor”. Otherwise, by you statement that ALL effects from this spell affect ONLY the element used in the spell (<em>Create Force</em> in this case), Mage Armor would only create an armor made of force that provides SOAK against Force Damage. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then <em>ABJURE, NATURE</em> is far too powerful as its currently written, especially if Nature and Metal are the only two Abjure spells that are useful foe Defense and Shielding as SniperFox47 implies.</p><p></p><p>Again, JMHO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khaalis, post: 6300664, member: 2167"] Ok, so I get the clarification on MP, but I included this as an option in my statement. [i]“Even if you only used 2MP to cast the spell, you'd have 50gc worth of material or Studded Leather SOAK 6.“[/i] So why does the spell give a “Chain Shirt SOAK 4?” Was the mage who wrote the spell just lazy? You say [i]“just because you *can* create 250gc[/i]” [actually 50gc in this instance] [i]”doesn't mean you have to.”[/i] Why on earth would anyone bothering to spend the MP for the spell effect and then NOT take maximum effect. If I spend 2 MP and that means I can get armor that grants SOAK 6, why on earth would I only choose SOAK 4? Morrus needs to clarify this then and the cantrip needs to be reworded. If that is so, then the spell is actually pretty useless. Not to mention it means the Mage Armor spell either seems to contradict this, OR as I stated earlier the ELEMENTAL OBJECT enhancement overrides the “specified effect type” rider which means ANY element could make “armor”. Otherwise, by you statement that ALL effects from this spell affect ONLY the element used in the spell ([i]Create Force[/i] in this case), Mage Armor would only create an armor made of force that provides SOAK against Force Damage. Then [i]ABJURE, NATURE[/i] is far too powerful as its currently written, especially if Nature and Metal are the only two Abjure spells that are useful foe Defense and Shielding as SniperFox47 implies. Again, JMHO. [/QUOTE]
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