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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Unwise" data-source="post: 5704096" data-attributes="member: 98008">It just seems to me that the Abjurer is getting some of the sheilding of the Sheilding Swordmage, or very close to, and the damage of the assault swordmage, plus a knockback that completely stops the damage. In practice, won't it play a lot like a swordmage using a paragon feat to mark two targets within range? The effect is the same, protecting the ally that is fighting that creature by shielding them for X amount of damage, thus making them less viable targets. They miss out on the -2 to hit, but on the plus side, if they are getting pounded by 3 enemies, it does work against all of them. The assault swordmage can deal a basic attack against the one person they have marked within 10 squares. I would think that the advantages of teleporting are negated by the disadvantages of having to teleport. In many cases the swordmage would wish to stay where they have positioned themselves, as opposed to moving to an enemy dictated part of the battlefield. I like both of the ideas (minus the pushback on an interrupting ranged basic attack) I am sure it can be tinkered with, the concept is sound. I just suspect it should maybe work like different builds. A sheilding Abjurer has a more powerful version of the bubble of protection, the punishing Abjurer's punishes those that defy the ward in more damaging ways. I don't believe the balance is broken, just pushing the limits in a way I would prefer them not to be pushed. Also, you will need some rules about how these wards interract with other defenders. I would really not want an Abjurer putting a 5DR ward with punishing attack on the knight who has just locked down the front line. As an afterthought, what about making the bolt attack give -2 to hit? There are many such attacks you could copy to keep it consistent. It also mimics the -2 to hit from a mark. Maybe make it an effect, so it does not require a hit to activate the -2. I think I would be far more comfortable with this than a pushback. P.S. I was just thinking, if you had a guy surrounded by 5 normal melee opponents anywhere within 10 squares of an abjurer, if they all attack the warded guy none of them can hit unless the Abjurer misses with his attack. He will have dealt great damage to them and even if they are missed and manage to hit themselves, they hit for 5 less damage. I don't really think that works for me, I would consider making the punishing bolt attack an immediate interrupt rather than an OA so it can only be used once per round. It might be a different story if it did not push though.</blockquote>

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