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<blockquote data-quote="Sezarious" data-source="post: 6727517" data-attributes="member: 6792106"><p>Here are the Links. And if you are going purely RAW, Crawford confirms that shields can be used as improvised weapons, but only states that the +1 to AC you gain from dual wielding was not intended to be used with the shield. If you were going purely RAW, then his comment that it wasn't RAI kind of validates the loophole (that is, if you take Crawfords twitter comments as validation, which I do as a DM). Special thanks to mistwell for asking Crawford about the dual wielding +1AC question. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sageadvice.eu/2014/11/17/shield-attack/" target="_blank">http://www.sageadvice.eu/2014/11/17/shield-attack/</a></p><p></p><p>Crawford:</p><p>-Using a shield to make an improvised attack doesn't deprive you of the AC bonus.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sageadvice.eu/tag/feat/page/2/" target="_blank">http://www.sageadvice.eu/tag/feat/page/2/</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>15 Apr</p><p> Mark Cronan @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=13310" target="_blank">Yeti</a></u></strong></em>Moose</p><p> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=4036" target="_blank">Jeremy</a></u></strong></em>ECrawford A shield as an improvised weapon with the Dual Wielding feat: Does the feat's +1 AC stack with the shield +2 AC that round?</p><p> </p><p> Jeremy Crawford @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=4036" target="_blank">Jeremy</a></u></strong></em>ECrawford</p><p> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=13310" target="_blank">Yeti</a></u></strong></em>Moose Dual Wielder is meant to work (RAI) with a melee weapon or an equivalent, not something like a shield.</p><p>5:37 AM - 16 Apr 2015</p><p> Retweets 11 favorite</p><p></p><p> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=4036" target="_blank">Jeremy</a></u></strong></em>ECrawford Um, you're the one who previously Tweeted that a shield can be used as an Improvised Weapon! How's that not a melee weapon?</p><p>9:43 AM - 16 Apr 2015</p><p> Retweets favorites</p><p></p><p>Mark Cronan @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=13310" target="_blank">Yeti</a></u></strong></em>Moose</p><p> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=4036" target="_blank">Jeremy</a></u></strong></em>ECrawford To clarify, around Feb 15 Q: "Must I doff a shield to use it as an improvised weapon? A: "Nope. It's shield-bash time!"</p><p></p><p>Jeremy Crawford @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=4036" target="_blank">Jeremy</a></u></strong></em>ECrawford</p><p> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=13310" target="_blank">Yeti</a></u></strong></em>Moose Yes, a shield, like many things, can be used as an improvised weapon. This has no bearing on the design intent of Dual Wielder.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sezarious, post: 6727517, member: 6792106"] Here are the Links. And if you are going purely RAW, Crawford confirms that shields can be used as improvised weapons, but only states that the +1 to AC you gain from dual wielding was not intended to be used with the shield. If you were going purely RAW, then his comment that it wasn't RAI kind of validates the loophole (that is, if you take Crawfords twitter comments as validation, which I do as a DM). Special thanks to mistwell for asking Crawford about the dual wielding +1AC question. :) [URL]http://www.sageadvice.eu/2014/11/17/shield-attack/[/URL] Crawford: -Using a shield to make an improvised attack doesn't deprive you of the AC bonus. [URL]http://www.sageadvice.eu/tag/feat/page/2/[/URL] 15 Apr Mark Cronan @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=13310"]Yeti[/URL][/U][/B][/I]Moose @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=4036"]Jeremy[/URL][/U][/B][/I]ECrawford A shield as an improvised weapon with the Dual Wielding feat: Does the feat's +1 AC stack with the shield +2 AC that round? Jeremy Crawford @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=4036"]Jeremy[/URL][/U][/B][/I]ECrawford @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=13310"]Yeti[/URL][/U][/B][/I]Moose Dual Wielder is meant to work (RAI) with a melee weapon or an equivalent, not something like a shield. 5:37 AM - 16 Apr 2015 Retweets 11 favorite @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=4036"]Jeremy[/URL][/U][/B][/I]ECrawford Um, you're the one who previously Tweeted that a shield can be used as an Improvised Weapon! How's that not a melee weapon? 9:43 AM - 16 Apr 2015 Retweets favorites Mark Cronan @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=13310"]Yeti[/URL][/U][/B][/I]Moose @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=4036"]Jeremy[/URL][/U][/B][/I]ECrawford To clarify, around Feb 15 Q: "Must I doff a shield to use it as an improvised weapon? A: "Nope. It's shield-bash time!" Jeremy Crawford @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=4036"]Jeremy[/URL][/U][/B][/I]ECrawford @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=13310"]Yeti[/URL][/U][/B][/I]Moose Yes, a shield, like many things, can be used as an improvised weapon. This has no bearing on the design intent of Dual Wielder. [/QUOTE]
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