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<blockquote data-quote="Panda-s1" data-source="post: 8031647" data-attributes="member: 59554"><p>bruh. I brought up the idea of Japanese players giving material to a Japanese magazine and having it translated for English release, of course that counts, put your hand down, jesus.</p><p></p><p>that's fair, maybe "common" might have been a better way of saying it. case in point, if you google Akira Saito ("Akira" being the common name here) you get a wikipedia article (ironically with no Japanese translation) that even has a disambiguation page because there was an actress with the same name. all the other names don't get that, just those databases I mentioned and pages that coincidentally happen to have both parts of their name on them.</p><p></p><p>I do have an American friend working in Japan who brought up playing D&D a few times, but it wasn't clear if she was playing the Japanese version of D&D or just playing the English version with her English speaking friends. probably the latter. I do know a lot RPGs have spawned out of Japan in the meantime, some of which look really cool and I'm sad some of them still don't have official English translations.</p><p></p><p>and the company that owns Tokyo Disneyland is The Oriental Land Company. believe me, I know, a lot of people do. but you said it yourself, Japanese people in Japan don't care. most (not all) people in Japan never have to deal with some sort of systemic discrimination. more to the point, "Oriental" comes from English and unless they live and interact in a western society they might not understand how and why this term was used in the West and why we really don't use it anymore. I'd imagine there are consultants for companies who want to name something with English (despite what I'm sure is evidence to the contrary), and I'm sure they'd tell people today to steer clear of "Oriental".</p><p></p><p>isn't that what an editor is supposed to do? isn't that what a script polisher supposed to do? isn't that what a <em>playtester </em>is supposed to do?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Panda-s1, post: 8031647, member: 59554"] bruh. I brought up the idea of Japanese players giving material to a Japanese magazine and having it translated for English release, of course that counts, put your hand down, jesus. that's fair, maybe "common" might have been a better way of saying it. case in point, if you google Akira Saito ("Akira" being the common name here) you get a wikipedia article (ironically with no Japanese translation) that even has a disambiguation page because there was an actress with the same name. all the other names don't get that, just those databases I mentioned and pages that coincidentally happen to have both parts of their name on them. I do have an American friend working in Japan who brought up playing D&D a few times, but it wasn't clear if she was playing the Japanese version of D&D or just playing the English version with her English speaking friends. probably the latter. I do know a lot RPGs have spawned out of Japan in the meantime, some of which look really cool and I'm sad some of them still don't have official English translations. and the company that owns Tokyo Disneyland is The Oriental Land Company. believe me, I know, a lot of people do. but you said it yourself, Japanese people in Japan don't care. most (not all) people in Japan never have to deal with some sort of systemic discrimination. more to the point, "Oriental" comes from English and unless they live and interact in a western society they might not understand how and why this term was used in the West and why we really don't use it anymore. I'd imagine there are consultants for companies who want to name something with English (despite what I'm sure is evidence to the contrary), and I'm sure they'd tell people today to steer clear of "Oriental". isn't that what an editor is supposed to do? isn't that what a script polisher supposed to do? isn't that what a [I]playtester [/I]is supposed to do? [/QUOTE]
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