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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rounser" data-source="post: 4695161" data-attributes="member: 1106">I don't think there's anywhere to go, now.  3E is too stat-intensive to prepare for, the combats in 3E and 4E run too long with all those stunts and minis, the 4E implied setting is wacky, and the rules challenge suspension of disbelief.  The OD&D clones fail to improve on the original sufficiently to meet today's standards (even C&C, although it's the best of a bad lot), retaining silliness such as the d4 rogue hit points just for sake of tradition.Perhaps the answer is just work around the RC limitations.  For instance, thieves become an NPC henchman class, hired as the party's "burglar".  Demihuman PCs who reach the limit retire, and the player then runs a new human PC of the appropriate level who has heard of the party's fame and exploits, and seeks to join them now there's a vacancy.  By that level you're probably looking for a change, and for some reason the idea of demihumans retiring seems to "fit" (perhaps LotR is to blame for this impression).Would that keep it from bothering you?  It bothers me too, but the above workarounds seem to make the RC viable again.  And as jdrakeh points out, you need the D&D RC branding to get players.</blockquote>