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<blockquote data-quote="CTurbo" data-source="post: 7395471" data-attributes="member: 6855234"><p>Yes I would assume, coming from the full weapons and armor proficiency, that the War Cleric was "supposedly" built around being in or near melee most of the time, not hiding in the back with the glass cannons. </p><p></p><p>I agree that at higher levels, using the Cast Spell action is usually going to be superior, but that doesn't mean that it's always a bad idea to use the Attack action. I also assume that since Divine Strike exists, the class(or at the domains that get the weapon proficiencies) were intended to actually use their weapon sometimes. </p><p></p><p>War Priest loses a lot of it's value for a typical War Cleric as soon as you get Spiritual Weapon. I am assuming a shield wielding Cleric with a 16 in his attack stat and a 16 is Wis. Their weapon will do 1d8+3 and their spiritual weapon will also do 1d8+3. The difference you can use War Priest only 3 times per short rest whereas you can cast SW once and use it for an entire encounter with one spell slot. Of course the 2 handed weapon War Clerics are an exception as well as the GWM Clerics.</p><p></p><p>So one of the War domain's key features basically overlaps one of the classes common spells. </p><p></p><p>Spiritual Weapon is not a mandatory spell, and I suppose War Priest does offer a little more flexibility, but Spiritual Weapon IS a great spell for any Cleric that does want to be on or near the front lines.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CTurbo, post: 7395471, member: 6855234"] Yes I would assume, coming from the full weapons and armor proficiency, that the War Cleric was "supposedly" built around being in or near melee most of the time, not hiding in the back with the glass cannons. I agree that at higher levels, using the Cast Spell action is usually going to be superior, but that doesn't mean that it's always a bad idea to use the Attack action. I also assume that since Divine Strike exists, the class(or at the domains that get the weapon proficiencies) were intended to actually use their weapon sometimes. War Priest loses a lot of it's value for a typical War Cleric as soon as you get Spiritual Weapon. I am assuming a shield wielding Cleric with a 16 in his attack stat and a 16 is Wis. Their weapon will do 1d8+3 and their spiritual weapon will also do 1d8+3. The difference you can use War Priest only 3 times per short rest whereas you can cast SW once and use it for an entire encounter with one spell slot. Of course the 2 handed weapon War Clerics are an exception as well as the GWM Clerics. So one of the War domain's key features basically overlaps one of the classes common spells. Spiritual Weapon is not a mandatory spell, and I suppose War Priest does offer a little more flexibility, but Spiritual Weapon IS a great spell for any Cleric that does want to be on or near the front lines. [/QUOTE]
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