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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 2326465" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>Simple, this has caused the most arguing, bad feelings, and generally stopped us from playing more often than looking up rules or discussing rules has.</p><p></p><p>Rules Light:</p><p>"You can't attack him with a greatsword, you are standing too close to him?"</p><p>"WHAT? But he attacked me when he was grappling with me with a spear, which is longer"</p><p>"That's different, he was trained in grappling techniques and can hit you with the other end of the spear, I know I saw a show where someone fought like that"</p><p>"But I'm in the SCA, I have fought with a Greatsword like this before as well"</p><p><insert 2 hours of arguing about whether the SCA is "realistic" or not, and whether using a movie as evidence is allowed and then the other players get involved with "historical" information from their history classes></p><p></p><p>Rules Heavy:</p><p>"You can't attack him with a greatsword, you can only use light weapons in a grapple."</p><p>"Really? Where does it say that?"</p><p>"In the rules."</p><p>"Oh, ok, I pull out my dagger"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 2326465, member: 5143"] Simple, this has caused the most arguing, bad feelings, and generally stopped us from playing more often than looking up rules or discussing rules has. Rules Light: "You can't attack him with a greatsword, you are standing too close to him?" "WHAT? But he attacked me when he was grappling with me with a spear, which is longer" "That's different, he was trained in grappling techniques and can hit you with the other end of the spear, I know I saw a show where someone fought like that" "But I'm in the SCA, I have fought with a Greatsword like this before as well" <insert 2 hours of arguing about whether the SCA is "realistic" or not, and whether using a movie as evidence is allowed and then the other players get involved with "historical" information from their history classes> Rules Heavy: "You can't attack him with a greatsword, you can only use light weapons in a grapple." "Really? Where does it say that?" "In the rules." "Oh, ok, I pull out my dagger" [/QUOTE]
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