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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1192628" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>You must be playing a different game than me. Sorcerers almost always have more spells per day.</p><p></p><p>Here is the breakdown (not counting zeroth level spells which are often next to worthless and sorcerers get more of anyway) of sorcerer with min bonus spells (i.e. min ability score for highest possible level spell) and with max bonus spells, followed by specialist wizard with min bonus spells and with max bonus spells, followed by wizard with min bonus spells and with max bonus spells (assuming no bonus items).</p><p></p><p>01 (3 4) (2 3) (1 1)</p><p>02 (4 5) (3 4) (2 3)</p><p>03 (5 6) (6 7) (4 5)</p><p>04 (10 11) (8 9) (6 7)</p><p>05 (11 12) (10 12) (7 9)</p><p>06 (15 17) (12 14) (9 11)</p><p>07 (17 19) (16 18) (12 14)</p><p>08 (22 25) (18 22) (14 18)</p><p>09 (24 27) (21 25) (16 20)</p><p>10 (28 32) (23 27) (18 22)</p><p></p><p>A Wizard never has more spells than a Sorcerer. A Specialist Wizard has more spells at level 3 and all types of Wizards can have a few higher level spells at odd levels starting at level 3, but Wizards (even Specialist Wizards) do not (with the exception of level 3) get more spells per day than Sorcerers at any level.</p><p></p><p>To get to the higher levels, you have to survive. At low levels, Sorcerers are better at that. Not only because they have more spells per day, but because they do not yet get locked into the state of not having the proper spell needed as often as Wizards.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not if the Sorcerer lives and the Wizard dies (which happens a lot more often than the other way around at low levels).</p><p></p><p>Granted, at low level Wizards can make scrolls easier if a Sorcerer does not take Scribe Scroll, but on the other hand, Wizard treasure often goes to putting new spells in his book and Sorcerers can spontaneously cast meta-magic spells. All in all, survivability goes to Sorcerers at low level.</p><p></p><p>No doubt about it. At higher levels, Wizards are more powerful (more feats, more ability to make multiple scrolls for every spell in their repetoire, etc.). However, at low to mid levels, Sorcerers are more powerful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 1192628, member: 2011"] You must be playing a different game than me. Sorcerers almost always have more spells per day. Here is the breakdown (not counting zeroth level spells which are often next to worthless and sorcerers get more of anyway) of sorcerer with min bonus spells (i.e. min ability score for highest possible level spell) and with max bonus spells, followed by specialist wizard with min bonus spells and with max bonus spells, followed by wizard with min bonus spells and with max bonus spells (assuming no bonus items). 01 (3 4) (2 3) (1 1) 02 (4 5) (3 4) (2 3) 03 (5 6) (6 7) (4 5) 04 (10 11) (8 9) (6 7) 05 (11 12) (10 12) (7 9) 06 (15 17) (12 14) (9 11) 07 (17 19) (16 18) (12 14) 08 (22 25) (18 22) (14 18) 09 (24 27) (21 25) (16 20) 10 (28 32) (23 27) (18 22) A Wizard never has more spells than a Sorcerer. A Specialist Wizard has more spells at level 3 and all types of Wizards can have a few higher level spells at odd levels starting at level 3, but Wizards (even Specialist Wizards) do not (with the exception of level 3) get more spells per day than Sorcerers at any level. To get to the higher levels, you have to survive. At low levels, Sorcerers are better at that. Not only because they have more spells per day, but because they do not yet get locked into the state of not having the proper spell needed as often as Wizards. Not if the Sorcerer lives and the Wizard dies (which happens a lot more often than the other way around at low levels). Granted, at low level Wizards can make scrolls easier if a Sorcerer does not take Scribe Scroll, but on the other hand, Wizard treasure often goes to putting new spells in his book and Sorcerers can spontaneously cast meta-magic spells. All in all, survivability goes to Sorcerers at low level. No doubt about it. At higher levels, Wizards are more powerful (more feats, more ability to make multiple scrolls for every spell in their repetoire, etc.). However, at low to mid levels, Sorcerers are more powerful. [/QUOTE]
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