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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 9476738" data-attributes="member: 6750235">Valor bards are fine too.  It's not like they can't use CHA and subbing in Truestrike for 1 attack can work.True.  But that's only really a concern when the build doesn't invest in both anyway.  The CHA/DEX valor bard, for example, gets strong benefits with either stat focus first.Magical Secrets specifies prepared spells, which is separate from Cantrips on the class progression.  Secrets shouldn't work for cantrips.  Magical Discoveries on a lore bard, OTOH, specifically states it can be used for cantrips.Level 10: Magical SecretsYou’ve learned secrets from various magical traditions. Whenever you reach a Bard level (including this level) and the Prepared Spells number in the Bard Features table increases, you can choose any of your new prepared spells from the Bard, Cleric, Druid, and Wizard spell lists, and the chosen spells count as Bard spells for you (see a class’s section for its spell list). In addition, whenever you replace a spell prepared for this class, you can replace it with a spell from those lists.Level 6: Magical DiscoveriesYou learn two spells of your choice. These spells can come from the Cleric, Druid, or Wizard spell list or any combination thereof (see a class’s section for its spell list). A spell you choose must be a cantrip or a spell for which you have spell slots, as shown in the Bard Features table.The real question is why would we use Magical Secrets or Magical Discoveries when Truestrike is already on the bard spell list?  <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤔" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f914.png" title="Thinking face    :thinking:" data-shortname=":thinking:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></blockquote>

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